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InteGrand · Feb 4, 2016

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Shuuya said:
Naww I'm not special enough to have a personalised thread :'(

I think Flop21's thread just got merged with this one too. (Or got moved somewhere...can't find it right now, but when I click on it, it directs me to this thread.)

Edit: Ah, there's a post related to it at the top of this page.

Trebla · Feb 4, 2016

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Feel free to make separate threads for questions (and strongly encourage you to search past threads before you ask the question), but we really want to avoid a situation where many people start creating their own thread for all their questions.

wu345 · Feb 5, 2016

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Trebla said:
Feel free to make separate threads for questions (and strongly encourage you to search past threads before you ask the question), but we really want to avoid a situation where many people start creating their own thread for all their questions.

What if we just make one for both Cambridge textbooks? I think a lot of the questions are coming for ext1 are coming from the yr 11 and yr 12 cambridge textbooks (eg. all of mine haha). At the moment there's a thread for yr 11 cambridge but not for yr12

leehuan · Feb 5, 2016

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$\\ \bf{NEW QUESTION}$

For the actual marathon. To not scare away too many people.

$\\ $Use mathematical induction to prove the formula for the $n$-th partial sum of a geometric progression.$

leehuan · Feb 5, 2016

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Paradoxica said:
We still have this one.

I left a question for little 2016ers who are still making their way up. I might do your one later.

Trebla · Feb 5, 2016

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wu345 said:
What if we just make one for both Cambridge textbooks? I think a lot of the questions are coming for ext1 are coming from the yr 11 and yr 12 cambridge textbooks (eg. all of mine haha). At the moment there's a thread for yr 11 cambridge but not for yr12

That is fine as the long as there are only two threads.

davidgoes4wce · Feb 8, 2016

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Solve for 'x':

leehuan · Feb 8, 2016

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davidgoes4wce said:
Solve for 'x':

My instinct is that after you use change of base, multiply the equation through by ln(x) [safe because ln(x)≠0] and then it's a quadratic.

Paradoxica · Feb 8, 2016

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$\noindent a) ${-1,x,x^3}$ is an arithmetic progression.$\\$Find $x$, given $-1$ trivially satisfies the above sequence.$ \\ \phi $ is the positive solution to the above sequence.$ \\ $b) Show by induction or other means that $\phi^{2n}+\phi^{-2n}$ is an integer.$ \\ $c) Similarly, show $\phi^{2n+1}-\phi^{-(2n+1)}$ is an integer.$ \\ $Hint: Manipulate the quadratic equation to your advantage.$

Drsoccerball · Feb 8, 2016

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Here's a question before I forget :

$Solve:$

$y=x^3+x^2-4x+3---(1)$

$(y+1)(y^2-4)=x-7 ---(2)$

davidgoes4wce · Feb 8, 2016

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Paradoxica said:
$\noindent a) ${-1,x,x^3}$ is an arithmetic progression.$\\$Find $x$, given $-1$ trivially satisfies the above sequence.$ \\ \phi $ is the positive solution to the above sequence.$ \\ $b) Show by induction or other means that $\phi^{2n}+\phi^{-2n}$ is an integer.$ \\ $c) Similarly, show $\phi^{2n+1}-\phi^{-(2n+1)}$ is an integer.$ \\ $Hint: Manipulate the quadratic equation to your advantage.$

Can an arithmetic progression have a difference of 0?

For part a)

I looked at the difference of the second term and first term D= x-(-1)=x+1
Then I looked at the difference of the 3rd and 2nd term D=x^3-x

equating that

x+1=x^3-x

x^3-2x-1=0

In solving for x, I get x=-1.

Paradoxica · Feb 8, 2016

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davidgoes4wce said:
Can an arithmetic progression have a difference of 0?

For part a)

I looked at the difference of the second term and first term D= x-(-1)=x+1
Then I looked at the difference of the 3rd and 2nd term D=x^3-x

equating that

x+1=x^3-x

x^3-2x-1=0

In solving for x, I get x=-1.

...do you know what long division is...

or trial factorisation

leehuan · Feb 8, 2016

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davidgoes4wce said:
Can an arithmetic progression have a difference of 0?

For part a)

I looked at the difference of the second term and first term D= x-(-1)=x+1
Then I looked at the difference of the 3rd and 2nd term D=x^3-x

equating that

x+1=x^3-x

x^3-2x-1=0

In solving for x, I get x=-1.

What. You're meant to factor out (x+1) from that x^3-2x-1 and then solve from THERE.

With or without long division.

davidgoes4wce · Feb 8, 2016

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Paradoxica said:
...do you know what long division is...

or trial factorisation

Doing the long division was not the hard part, I did it here

I guess being an arithmetic progression , I expected the values to increase by the same 'difference'. Im guessing that you have to do something with the rational number, as there could be 3 values that could be the difference.

leehuan · Feb 8, 2016

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What am I even typing.

But no, that IS the correct answer. If you try subbing it into x^3 you'll find it pops out.

Speed6 · Feb 8, 2016

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Are golden ratios an advantage if you know it for 3U?

Drsoccerball · Feb 8, 2016

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Speed6 said:
Are golden ratios an advantage if you know it for 3U?

There's no use of it in any HSC level. (except maybe general notsure about the syllabus.)

davidgoes4wce · Feb 8, 2016

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I gather the 3 solutions then are:

AS a bit of a hit and giggle, I also decided then to substitute those rational terms and prove that the difference was indeed the same (sorry its a bit messy):

Paradoxica · Feb 8, 2016

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davidgoes4wce said:
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That's unnecessarily complicated.

$$\noindent If $x$ satisfies $ x^2 = bx + c $, then $x^3 = b(x^2) + cx = b(bx+c) + cx = (b^2+c) x + bc \\ $In this case, $b = c = 1$

davidgoes4wce · Feb 8, 2016

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Paradoxica said:
$\noindent a) ${-1,x,x^3}$ is an arithmetic progression.$\\$Find $x$, given $-1$ trivially satisfies the above sequence.$ \\ \phi $ is the positive solution to the above sequence.$ \\ $b) Show by induction or other means that $\phi^{2n}+\phi^{-2n}$ is an integer.$ \\ $c) Similarly, show $\phi^{2n+1}-\phi^{-(2n+1)}$ is an integer.$ \\ $Hint: Manipulate the quadratic equation to your advantage.$

b) Since we know the solution of part a), by equating n=1, it returns an integer of 3.

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