HSC...Got to be a better option! (1 Viewer)

[waterfowl]

Does anyone else think that there HAS to be a better way of testing your years of schooling than the HSC? I mean having your mark all depend on test marks is a bit harsh! It should be a collection of things, not half of your final mark depending on how well you went in ONE test.

 

[santaslayer]

1)I think it's a fairly good indication of readyness for further tertiary studies. For a start, you are given a years chance to prepare for the real HSC (Preliminary). In that year, your school would of prepared you for the HSC by giving you exam tips and other forms of guidance.

2) Also, the HSC isn't all about exam marks. Many subjects require an assessment on practicals, speaches and other varieties of applying what you have learnt during your 13 years of schooling.

3) yYu may consider it unfair that half of your exam marks are assessed in one exam, but the point is that you have been given many opportunites in in-class assessments to fine tune your exam technique.

4) There are also mechanisms available for students who turn up ill to the exams as well.

 

[*girl04*]

like our teacher says to us " its a shame we have to teach you crap for 2 years, too do a 2 hour exam" but hey, if they didnt have the hsc, would be people take it seriously? i dont think so

 

[*girl04*]

Does anyone else think that there HAS to be a better way of testing your years of schooling than the HSC? I mean having your mark all depend on test marks is a bit harsh! It should be a collection of things, not half of your final mark depending on how well you went in ONE test.

well it is sort of, think of your asses. marks

 

[withoutaface]

I would prefer an IQ test for uni.

 

[mack]

You could always give it another go. The one year doesnt determine all.

 

[speersy]

.

4) There are also mechanisms available for students who turn up ill to the exams as well.

I was wondering if you are sick what happens. Do you get an estimate, do you sit the exam? i obviously know that you cant sit the exam at a later date so what happens?

 

[MissMacbeth]

I think I agree with the HSC to a degree. But I don't agree with the teaching system. My school was bad at teaching and support / tutoring was even worse. I think it really depends on the school, not so much the final test. As a school, each child (minus the stupid dickheads like me who stuffed around) should be confident and ready for each exam, not flying blind like most of students b/c of lack of teaching resources.

I do query, again, the learning support in schools. How come, when I set foot on TAFE, I found out there was a "Learning Centre" that had specific tutors specialising in specific areas such as maths, science etc.... How come there aren't any of these systems in the schools??? Public schools, I mean. I thought, that a learning centre could have given me a few more marks in the HSC b/c of the FREE one on one help and tutoring advice and more of a chance to grasp concepts better than, just being assumed of that you knew the syllabus in 52 or 45min for each class.

That's another thing. the short classes are a bloody waste of time. They should be longer. Ok, I know some are glaring at me, but at first I thought 4hrs of maths would be pain, but now I see it in a better light - I have more of a chance to grasp concepts and use a 4hr repetition of the methods so its stuck in my head. I remember, in highschool maths would be 52min - 20min of which is wasted on unpacking your stuff and 20min was spent on teachers yelling or touching the surface of a method, then expecting the remaining 13min to do exercises and know the methods and meanings all in that lesson. To be quite honest, that was shi*t!

 

[santaslayer]

I was wondering if you are sick what happens. Do you get an estimate, do you sit the exam? i obviously know that you cant sit the exam at a later date so what happens?

You get awarded extra marks through the discretion of the authorities if you are sick halfway through the exam. You must provide evidence to support your case. ie. Xrays, Medical certificates. etc.

I think you are given an estimate if you fail to come to the exam. (evidence)

 

[mishka]

well i refuse to call the "trials" (ugh!) trials. I refer to them as yearlies, cos that's what they are in reality. i know you're "trialling" yourself, but the whole word just freaks me out.

there has to be a way so that your school certificate studies can carry over to your hsc studies. that way it's continuous. also i think every subject should have the SAME assessments. i know, i know, they're "moderated" but still, that would be the only fair way. then it wouldn't matter about the dropkicks in your class cos EVERYONE in the state would have done the exact same assessments. my ideas, anyways....

 

[Not-That-Bright]

My school also offers a thing called the IB, you do 2 years of study, no assessments count except for one major essay (that only has to be 4-5000 words) and at the end of the two years you get tested for those two years.

If you can get around 70% in each of ur subjects u get a uai of around 80

 

[sayuru]

HSC.. is stupid

i can't believe you lot, the hsc is the most ridiculous peice of crap. The only way someone can do well in it is if they sacrifice most of their life into studying. I don't know about you guys but i know alot of people who have other concerns to worry about rather then 24 hours of study. The sylabuses suck, theres too much shit to learn, the marking is screwed depending on what school you go to, my school has a hopeless english department (Sydney Boys) and they jeapordize everyones marks because they are a lazy bunch of idiots. Half of them should not be teachers the other half should be locked in a mental institute. They reckon their college professors from Harvard or something so they try to mark extremely hard, they never try to award marks even if the student has a decent attempt, they are the only department in our school that gives marks of 0, and those essays, assignments never deserved a 0. As you can see i have a deep seated grudge against my English department, but anyways, yeh teh hsc is horse shit, i hate the fuckwits that thought it was a good idea. hsc fucks up life in australia, it takes away the oppurtunity to have fun and enjoy life and it ruins some peoples abilities to understand themselves. People today underestimate teens and what they go through, one of the most disregarded mental illnesses is depression and that is brushed off as it has no bad effects on people, depression leads to suicide and other things such as family problems, the hsc doesn't help those poeple who dont have the chance to study 6 hours a night.. this system is fucked, i want to lobby against it after i finish it.

 

[Zarathustra]

The point of the HSC is not to see how intelligent people are but how well they can apply their intelligence. If you are not willing to study now, why would you be in university? If anyone doesn't want to go to university there are plenty of jobs that don't require a degree or the HSC. This is post-compulsory education anyone that doesn't want to do t - doesn't have to - simple as that :uhhuh:

 

[Tommy_Lamp]

sayuru, you can wait until ur a mature-age student to goto uni if u want

 

[coroneos]

im against engrish tho... wtf is with the random questions they ask for modules in adv. eng paper 2??

 

[Ragerunner]

You get awarded extra marks through the discretion of the authorities if you are sick halfway through the exam. You must provide evidence to support your case. ie. Xrays, Medical certificates. etc.

I think you are given an estimate if you fail to come to the exam. (evidence)

Actually they do not give you extra marks at all. There is no such procedure.

What happens if you fall ill in an exam is you apply for a misadventure appeal. If the appeal is upheld then you will be granted your moderated assessment mark as your exam mark (or whichever is higher).




At the moment I think the HSC system is extremely good. Although there are some faults, the HSC does manage to cover all students in a fair manner to allow them to enter university.

Although you do need to sacrafice quite a lot to study for the HSC, that's the idea. Universities want students who can actually put the effort into the studies. Hence the UAI system is used because it ranks the students.

Basically, you tell us how would you like the HSC to be like, that also manages to ensure fairness is consistent through all schools in the state. Because I seriously can't think of any other options other than a single final exam at the end which isn't really any good.

 

[mack]

The HSC isnt the be all and end all anyway. There are always other options. Even if you have a painfully low UAI, it is still possible to try out your desired degree at graduate level. I dont think the system is bad either, i blame the media for putting forward the idea it is the be all and end all of someones life. Which it is definitely not.

 

[Ragerunner]

It is not the be all and end all, though university/tafe apprenticeships are what the majority of people want to go through.

 

[VVoody]

The point of the HSC is not to see how intelligent people are but how well they can apply their intelligence.

The HSC isn't about intelligence. It's about information retention. As long as you memorise the syllabus you're gonna do well.

 

[Sharky]

yeah, and im sure that if you memorize the entire 4U Maths syllabus you'll get 100%