hypothetical corby poll (1 Viewer)

[stamos]

okay you are god and here is a hypothetical question

would you prefer:

a) susilo bambang yudhyono to officially pardon schapelle corby

or

b) corby to serve her sentence of 20 years, with the seperation between indonesian judicial power and the executive government's powers left uncompromised

edit:
Personally, i think it's better for the seperation of powers to be observed, regardless of if she's innocent. Indonesia has only recently become a functional democracy and the seperation of powers is more important than something that nobody can say for certain was a miscarriage of justice.

 

[spell check]

if yudhyono has the power to officially pardon convicts then the seperation of powers would be the same regardless of whether he exercises that power in this case

 

[santaslayer]

if yudhyono has the power to officially pardon convicts then the seperation of powers would be the same regardless of whether he exercises that power in this case

That's what I was thinking?

 

[stamos]

if yudhyono has the power to officially pardon convicts then the seperation of powers would be the same regardless of whether he exercises that power in this case

good point

but by convention some powers should be rarely used

I was thinking that by overruling the court in a very high profile case, there would be an impact upon the seperation of powers. He'd set a precedent.

technically you're right though... cunt

 

[santaslayer]

Shhhhh...
Quickly delete this thread so no one (except spell check and me) will know!

 

[spell check]

nah you're right though, it would be a big deal if he did exercise those powers, same as when whitlam got dismissed by the gov general

 

[santaslayer]

Big deal yes. But all constitutionally valid.

EDIT: It'll just prompt BoSers to create a million threads about it. Like the Corby one.

 

[stamos]

santaslayer: i'm asking what people would prefer to happen, not what they believed was legal

i was trying to see whether people think that governments should intervene in judicial systems when the public believes someone has been wronged

 

[jumb]

What does that have to do with the blow up doll?

 

[Seraph]

bambang is a hotty

 

[braindrainedAsh]

I would prefer her to appeal and be acquitted on appeal or have her sentence shortened by lots.

Or for new evidence to surface that proved her innocence.

 

[Benny_]

I would prefer for solid evidence to prove her guilt or innocence. Either's fine, so long as the outcome is just.

 

[poloktim]

I think if someone has a constitutionally defined power, then obviously it's there for a reason. Regardless of whether or not it's different to the Australian system, if it's there, then maybe the president has the right to exercise it in some circumstances?

Much like John Kerr did in 1975 with his constitutionally defined powers?

 

[soha]

stupid question..maybe i dunno?
but what does it mean to pardon her?
i do not know...

 

[Huratio]

i really don't think susilo bambang yudhyono will pardon Corby, I really don't think he cares about the case (what he said to John Howard was just to reinforce the relationship between the countries)

If he was to become involved --> Corby may get 5-10 years of her jail sentence. That is all.

 

[Wesnat]

Not to mention 20 years imprisonment in Indonesia for carrying 4KG of marijuana is quite lenient. In fact, I've heard reports that the Judges were seen as taking bribes or being corrupt or submitting to the demands from Australia (and not being objective enough) because they didn't give her the life sentence!

 

[Huratio]

Not to mention 20 years imprisonment in Indonesia for carrying 4KG of marijuana is quite lenient. In fact, I've heard reports that the Judges were seen as taking bribes or being corrupt or submitting to the demands from Australia (and not being objective enough) because they didn't give her the life sentence!

i wouldn't be suprised.

 

[gordo]

i just realised that a convict is a noun for someone who has been convicted

wow you learn something very day

like a convict isn;t just a word for a criminal

its the noun form of the verb to convict