Internet filtering: You can't opt-out (2 Viewers)

[Nebuchanezzar]

why don't you go back to Russia, as you much prefer their communist ways

Russia is not communist. It has changed quite a bit since old man Madorski emigrated to Australia because he was afraid of Karl Marx.

 

[justanotherposter]

http://petitions.takingitglobal.org/oznetcensorship

signed it but i don't think it'll help that much. Rudd and Conroy those fucking PRICKS. The country doesn't need a fucking baby sitter.
I was actually a labour supporter before this but from now on it's liberals all the way. Yes they kissed american asses but atleast they stopped trying to implement this retarded filter.

 

[Captain Hero]

Saw a bunch of non-eyecatching white paper signs stuck on telephone poles in the city to advertise the fact that censorship is coming.

God nerds suck at advertising.

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

Saw a bunch of non-eyecatching white paper signs stuck on telephone poles in the city to advertise the fact that censorship is coming.

God nerds suck at advertising.

We could band together along with some other BoS'ers to launch a larger campaign, comrade. Left and libertarian unite! :uhhuh:

 

[Captain Hero]

We could band together along with some other BoS'ers to launch a larger campaign, comrade. Left and libertarian unite! :uhhuh:

*Lovers of freedom and rights* unite. rite

mairite


unite

untie you have nothing to lose by your chainz

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

I'll do it myself then!

 

[stazi]

Russia is not communist. It has changed quite a bit since old man Madorski emigrated to Australia because he was afraid of Karl Marx.

Yeah, it's essentially totalitarian now. Def. not democratic, or communist/capitalist. It's just shit.

 

[bazookajoe]

Freedom?...Yeah.
Freedom?...Yeah right.
Freedom?...YEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
FREEDOM!
YEAH!
FREEDOOOOOOOOM!
YEAH RIGHT!
FREEDOOOOOOOOM!
YEAH!
FREEDOOOOOOOOM!
YEAH RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!

 

[zstar]

I'm going to send them snail mail.

I believe this Rudd government is trying to push Australia closer to Socialism. We need to stop this before he destroys this country and turns into North Korea.

 

[jb_nc]

The Federal Government is attempting to silence critics of its controversial plan to censor the internet, which experts say will break the internet while doing little to stop people from accessing illegal material such as child pornography.

Internet providers and the government's own tests have found that presently available filters are not capable of adequately distinguishing between legal and illegal content and can degrade internet speeds by up to 86 per cent.

Documents obtained by us show the office of the Communications Minister, Stephen Conroy, tried to bully ISP staff into suppressing their criticisms of the plan.

Senator Conroy has since last year's election victory remained tight-lipped on the specifics of his $44.2 million policy but, grilled by a Senate Estimates committee this week, he said the Government was looking at forcing ISPs to implement a two-tiered filtering system.

The first tier, which internet users would not be able to opt out of, would block all "illegal material". Senator Conroy has previously said Australians would be able to opt out of any filters to obtain "uncensored access to the internet".

The second tier, which is optional, would filter out content deemed inappropriate for children, such as pornography.

But neither filter tier will be capable of censoring content obtained over peer-to-peer file sharing networks, which account for an estimated 60 per cent of internet traffic.

Senator Conroy said Britain, Sweden, Canada and New Zealand had all implemented similar filtering systems. However, in all cases, participation by ISPs was optional and the filtering was limited in scope to predominantly child pornography.

Colin Jacobs, chair of the online users' lobby group Electronic Frontiers Australia said: "I'm not exaggerating when I say that this model involves more technical interference in the internet infrastructure than what is attempted in Iran, one of the most repressive and regressive censorship regimes in the world."

Critics of the ISP-level filtering plan say software filters installed by the user on their PC, which are already provided by the government for free at netalert.gov.au, are more than adequate.

Mark Newton, an engineer at Internode, has heavily criticised the Government and its filtering policy on the Whirlpool broadband community forum, going as far as saying it would enable child abuse.

He said the plan would inevitably result in significant false positives and degrade internet speeds tremendously. Those views were subsequently widely reported by technology media and blogs.

Although Newton identified himself as an employee of Internode - as Whirlpool's rules stipulate - he always maintained his views were personal opinions and not necessarily shared by the company.

On Tuesday, a policy advisor for Senator Conroy, Belinda Dennett, wrote an email to Internet Industry Association (IIA) board member Carolyn Dalton in an attempt to pressure Newton into reining in his dissent.

"In your capacity as a board member of the IIA I would like to express my serious concern that a IIA member would be sending out this sort of message. I have also advised [IIA chief executive] Peter Coroneos of my disappointment in this sort of irresponsible behaviour ," the email, read.

It is understood the email was accompanied by a phone call demanding that the message be passed on to senior Internode management.

Newton said he found the bullying "outrageous" and Senator Conroy was "misusing his influence as a Commonwealth Minister to intimidate a private dissenting citizen into silencing his political views".

A spokesman for Senator Conroy said Newton's accusation that the Government was promoting child abuse was "disappointing and irresponsible". He said the purpose of the email was "to establish whether Mr Newton's views were consistent with the IIA position".

Ironically, Senator Conroy has himself accused critics of his filtering policy of supporting child pornography - including Greens Senator Scott Ludlam in Senate Estimates this week.

ACMA released a report in July detailing the results of laboratory tests of six unnamed ISP-level filters.

Only one of the filters tested resulted in an acceptable speed reduction of 2 per cent or less. The others caused drops in speed between 21 per cent and 86 per cent.

The tests showed the more accurate the filtering, the bigger the impact on network performance.

However, none of the filters were completely accurate. They allowed access to between 2 per cent and 13 per cent of material that should have been blocked, and wrongly blocked between 1.3 per cent and 7.8 per cent of websites that should have been allowed.

"Why would you want to damage the performance and utility of the internet and not actually keep the bad stuff out anyway," said John Lindsay, carrier relations manager at Internode.

In Senate Estimates, Senator Ludlam expressed concern that all sorts of politically-sensitive material could be added to the block list and otherwise legitimate sites - for example, YouTube - could be rendered inaccessible based on content published by users.

"The black list ... can become very grey depending on how expansive the list becomes - euthanasia material, politically related material, material about anorexia. There is a lot of distasteful stuff on the internet," he said.

Despite this, the Government - which distanced itself from the tests by saying they were initiated by the previous government - is pressing ahead with live trials of the filtering system and will shortly seek expressions of interest from ISPs keen to participate.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/technolo...1224351430987.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

Conroy is a fucking idiot.

 

[youBROKEmyLIFE]

Conroy's a fucking hack who has less of an understanding of how the internet works than Ted fucking Stevens.

He should not have that portfolio; they should have an independent board manage Internet policy given how important it's going to be for the future of Australia's economy.

You can't sell out our fucking future as developer of new technology for political gains, it's way more important than that.

 

[zstar]

http://nocleanfeed.com/takeaction.html

For those of you who care about this Socialist insanity.

 

[withoutaface]

Ive written an email to my local member to try and get rid of this crap

if any of you are interested in keeping things the they are id recommend doing it as its probably the best thing to do at this stage. - isnt hard either...

Emails do nothing, send a letter.

 

[chicky_pie]

Labor's net gag 'worse than Iran'

The Federal Government is attempting to silence critics of its controversial plan to censor the internet, which experts say will break the internet while doing little to stop people from accessing illegal material such as child pornography.

Internet providers and the government's own tests have found that presently available filters are not capable of adequately distinguishing between legal and illegal content and can degrade internet speeds by up to 86 per cent.

Documents obtained by us show the office of the Communications Minister, Stephen Conroy, tried to bully ISP staff into suppressing their criticisms of the plan.

Senator Conroy has since last year's election victory remained tight-lipped on the specifics of his $44.2 million policy but, grilled by a Senate Estimates committee this week, he said the Government was looking at forcing ISPs to implement a two-tiered filtering system.

The first tier, which internet users would not be able to opt out of, would block all "illegal material". Senator Conroy has previously said Australians would be able to opt out of any filters to obtain "uncensored access to the internet".

The second tier, which is optional, would filter out content deemed inappropriate for children, such as pornography.

But neither filter tier will be capable of censoring content obtained over peer-to-peer file sharing networks, which account for an estimated 60 per cent of internet traffic.

Senator Conroy said Britain, Sweden, Canada and New Zealand had all implemented similar filtering systems. However, in all cases, participation by ISPs was optional and the filtering was limited in scope to predominantly child pornography.

Colin Jacobs, chair of the online users' lobby group Electronic Frontiers Australia said: "I'm not exaggerating when I say that this model involves more technical interference in the internet infrastructure than what is attempted in Iran, one of the most repressive and regressive censorship regimes in the world."

Critics of the ISP-level filtering plan say software filters installed by the user on their PC, which are already provided by the government for free at netalert.gov.au, are more than adequate.

Mark Newton, an engineer at Internode, has heavily criticised the Government and its filtering policy on the Whirlpool broadband community forum, going as far as saying it would enable child abuse.

He said the plan would inevitably result in significant false positives and degrade internet speeds tremendously. Those views were subsequently widely reported by technology media and blogs.

Although Newton identified himself as an employee of Internode - as Whirlpool's rules stipulate - he always maintained his views were personal opinions and not necessarily shared by the company.

On Tuesday, a policy advisor for Senator Conroy, Belinda Dennett, wrote an email to Internet Industry Association (IIA) board member Carolyn Dalton in an attempt to pressure Newton into reining in his dissent.

"In your capacity as a board member of the IIA I would like to express my serious concern that a IIA member would be sending out this sort of message. I have also advised [IIA chief executive] Peter Coroneos of my disappointment in this sort of irresponsible behaviour ," the email, read.

It is understood the email was accompanied by a phone call demanding that the message be passed on to senior Internode management.

Newton said he found the bullying "outrageous" and Senator Conroy was "misusing his influence as a Commonwealth Minister to intimidate a private dissenting citizen into silencing his political views".

A spokesman for Senator Conroy said Newton's accusation that the Government was promoting child abuse was "disappointing and irresponsible". He said the purpose of the email was "to establish whether Mr Newton's views were consistent with the IIA position".

Ironically, Senator Conroy has himself accused critics of his filtering policy of supporting child pornography - including Greens Senator Scott Ludlam in Senate Estimates this week.

ACMA released a report in July detailing the results of laboratory tests of six unnamed ISP-level filters.

Only one of the filters tested resulted in an acceptable speed reduction of 2 per cent or less. The others caused drops in speed between 21 per cent and 86 per cent.

The tests showed the more accurate the filtering, the bigger the impact on network performance.

However, none of the filters were completely accurate. They allowed access to between 2 per cent and 13 per cent of material that should have been blocked, and wrongly blocked between 1.3 per cent and 7.8 per cent of websites that should have been allowed.

"Why would you want to damage the performance and utility of the internet and not actually keep the bad stuff out anyway," said John Lindsay, carrier relations manager at Internode.

In Senate Estimates, Senator Ludlam expressed concern that all sorts of politically-sensitive material could be added to the block list and otherwise legitimate sites - for example, YouTube - could be rendered inaccessible based on content published by users.

"The black list ... can become very grey depending on how expansive the list becomes - euthanasia material, politically related material, material about anorexia. There is a lot of distasteful stuff on the internet," he said.

Despite this, the Government - which distanced itself from the tests by saying they were initiated by the previous government - is pressing ahead with live trials of the filtering system and will shortly seek expressions of interest from ISPs keen to participate.

If this goes ahead, I'm plotting to kidnap Kevin Rudd, who's with me?

 

[Rafy]

WHERE is the RAGE?

 

[abbeyroad]

Conroy is a dirty commie and so is Rudd. What kind of numb nuts voted him in? There's a fine line between censorship and authoritarianism. Just who gets to decide what kind of material is "inappropriate"? What if one day, in addition to censoring pornography, they decide to censor all dissenting political views, much like what Comerad Conroy is trying to do here? Fucking commies. Give me liberty or give me death.

 

[ktinn]

I sent emails to the 7:30 report and today tonight a week ago in their "send us an idea for a story" type thing but i seriously doubt it will do anything.

The reason why we haven't heard about this is because TV doesn't give a shit about the internet. Think about the millions of nightly viewers they've lost to the internet. I wouldn't be surprised if they're deliberately keeping this down or even had a hand in bringing it all about.

But i for sure am NOT voting labor in my first election. This is just bullshit - its like family first has the ear of Rudd, or even worse his conservative Anglican juices are flowing now that the election has been and gone.

 

[youBROKEmyLIFE]

I hope this teaches our ENTIRE generation to NEVER support labor because they hate out freedom and want to destroy Australia.

 

[katie tully]

I hope this teaches our ENTIRE generation to NEVER support labor because they hate out freedom and want to destroy Australia.

Nah.

Pretty much as long as there are fuckwits like wuddie getting around, then Labor will always have a chance.

Just wish they could be knocked on the head at birth.

 

[banco55]

If you do a quick google search you can find the phone numbers for the ministerial staffer that tried to gag criticism.

http://www.minister.dbcde.gov.au/me...government_committed_to_fttn_national_network

Further information: Belinda Dennett on (02) 6277 7480 or 0417 011 991