Iraq's Future (1 Viewer)

[absolution*]

Yes, absolutely, once they reunify the country properly and get rid of insurgents.

Get out you fucking idiot.

 

[Korn]

Dont ask hypotheticals. For all any of us know, the "war on terror" )) could still be going on in 2020..

Well the war on terrorism, and the war in Iraq are two different things, the War on terrorism could very well be still going on in 2020, they have to get rid of all terrorists everywhere

 

[absolution*]

Well the war on terrorism, and the war in Iraq are two different things, the War on terrorism could very well be still going on in 2020, they have to get rid of all terrorists everywhere

Ill refer you to my previous direction above.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Well i don't disagree with alot of what you said absolution.. at least this part

Youre obviously disillusioned about the whole war. The whole point of the Iraq war espouses of Nietsche's "will to power" be eliminating the possibility of other countries gaining arms which will ultimately lead to a shift in geopolitcal power. The US wants to stay in control. They dont give a flying mcfuck about the Iraqi people. It was a second-rate objective which now seems to have become primary due to the fact that there were no nuclear arms in Iraq.

As for my views being popularist, they are not.. It would seem that as most good minded people (myself included) oppose war, they also don't manage to recognise possible positive outcomes of war.

I would say it is possible I am disillusioned about the outcomes of the war, and to an extent i am slightly too positive, but I can of course see the negative side.

 

[Korn]

mr not that bright,
the country was going backwards in the first place, and if someone really wanted to help it, they
wouldnt go invade it
would ask for international help
wouldnt blow everything up
and then say we're helping the people and country, (we all know the bullshit)

lets go back to why the country was going backwards in the first place, U.N sanctions for over 12 years has done all the damage, not to mention the 8 year war with iran, and the gulf war, when everything in the country was blown up

and all the stupid sanctions did nothing but put the country down, and for what? 'weapons of mass destruction' where are they now?

i can sit here and type a million things but busy at the moment
as for your question, i am iraqi, so in 2020 im pretty sure i can tell you that life in iraq would actually be better before the sanctions 30 years ago

due to the war the country has lost its history, its heritage, thousands of its people, pride etc.... and most importantly its oil

Who are the ppl stealing from the museums, i didnt see any white ppl or the tv doing it, they were all middle Eastern, if not Iraqi, take responsiblity for urself

 

[mcdickpants 2.5]

Who are the ppl stealing from the museums, i didnt see any white ppl or the tv doing it, they were all middle Eastern, if not Iraqi, take responsiblity for urself

dude
seriously, do you think about what you're saying at all?

 

[Not-That-Bright]

It was a result of the war that the art was taken korn, if not for the war it would have been relitively safe.

His point about the sanctions however true is rather moot, would iraq really be that much better off without the sanctions but still with saddam? Do the saudi's seem to be living much better with no restrictions on them? Do the iranians? No. You have a small ruling class with alot of people that are still poor.

 

[absolution*]

As for my views being popularist, they are not.. It would seem that as most good minded people (myself included) oppose war, they also don't manage to recognise possible positive outcomes of war.

Positive outcomes of war? Hmmm. That sounds like youre basing that on some sort of historical evidence. So name me one war which has led to a major positive outcome.

 

[Korn]

Ill refer you to my previous direction above.

Hey ur a fuckup arnt u do u have any actuall shit to say or just "Fuck off"

 

[Not-That-Bright]

World War 2 had many positive outcomes.

 

[mcdickpants 2.5]

No. You have a small ruling class with alot of people that are still poor.

how would the war change that though?
soldiers arent handing out cash in the streets or anything.
it would take many decades for the iraqi people to stabalise the balance of wealth anyway.

 

[absolution*]

Hey ur a fuckup arnt u do u have any actuall shit to say or just "Fuck off"

I do not need to to justify myself to someone who is as intellectually lacking as you appear to be. Sorry. Come back when you get smarter.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Well you've already had the ruling class knocked off their grand pedastal where the government was looking after them more than the others.
The sanctions were stopping iraq's economy, once they are removed and you don't have a dictatorship but more a representative body of the largest segments of the iraqi population you get a better distribution of wealth.

 

[absolution*]

how would the war change that though?
soldiers arent handing out cash in the streets or anything.
it would take many decades for the iraqi people to stabalise the balance of wealth anyway.

the dick knows it. dick 1. NTB 0.

 

[absolution*]

World War 2 had many positive outcomes.

Name them...........

 

[mcdickpants 2.5]

Well you've already had the ruling class knocked off their grand pedastal where the government was looking after them more than the others.
The sanctions were stopping iraq's economy, once they are removed and you don't have a dictatorship but more a representative body of the largest segments of the iraqi population you get a better distribution of wealth.

do you honestly belive that when its all over, iraq will be truley independant though?
Think of how much money it will need to rebuild all the damage the war caused. they'll have to borow money for that., which will put them in debt, all the while, their major export is being stolen and sold by other countries.
that doesnt spell economic stabiliity to me

 

[Korn]

Name them...........

It stopped the Jews from being exterminated (after the war ended), it got rid of Hitler (after the war ended), it created the UN

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Technological Advances,
Economic Benefits,
Establishment of several treaties & alliances which gave helped to unite and stablise most of western europe.

 

[absolution*]

Well you've already had the ruling class knocked off their grand pedastal where the government was looking after them more than the others.
The sanctions were stopping iraq's economy, once they are removed and you don't have a dictatorship but more a representative body of the largest segments of the iraqi population you get a better distribution of wealth.

You know which system of government has the most even distribution of wealth?

COMMUNISTS!!!!!! woohoo.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Tell that to the chinese living in the poorer provinces.

edit: that is exactly why reconstruction work done by the americans should be funded by the americans and other nations, the reconstruction work done by iraqi's for iraqi's should pay for its self in many ways.