hiphophooray123
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SashatheMan said:why do u only pick the bible and say it has been edited out of its true meaning? I think same would apply for the quran
the qua'ran cannot be edited, i think.
SashatheMan said:why do u only pick the bible and say it has been edited out of its true meaning? I think same would apply for the quran
My main quips with religion in general are two issues:veterandoggy said:ive noticed that whenever conversations questioning islam are brought about, terrorism is always the core of the argument. islam isnt all about fighting. it covers everything from life to after death, even toilet ettiquettes. but this is the only thing which seems harsh to todays democratic society, so they can only use that to argue to make them feel better
the reason terrorism is the core of the arguement, becuase its the main issue that effects innocent peoples lives. Why would i argue about toilet ettiquettes when it such a minor thing and it doesnt harm anyone. Terrorism is the result of quran allowing people to interpet it to a poiunt where people kill themselves and others. so far there hasnt been interpetations from eg bible which allowed mass murder of innocent peopleveterandoggy said:ive noticed that whenever conversations questioning islam are brought about, terrorism is always the core of the argument. islam isnt all about fighting. it covers everything from life to after death, even toilet ettiquettes. but this is the only thing which seems harsh to todays democratic society, so they can only use that to argue to make them feel better
allah said that he would protect the quran, and some wrong ones have been caught since, indicating that the quran we have today is the same quran revealed to muhammadSashatheMan said:why do u only pick the bible and say it has been edited out of its true meaning? I think same would apply for the quran
translating the quran into english is already a form of editing it. Then u traslate something from one language into another , its impossible to traslate it into exact same meaning as , some words may not exist which have a particular meaning in the other langauge.hiphophooray123 said:the qua'ran cannot be edited, i think.
yes some. and others made it through.veterandoggy said:allah said that he would protect the quran, and some wrong ones have been caught since, indicating that the quran we have today is the same quran revealed to muhammad
it does this so that there are less conflicts with the way people live their lives, but if people want to conflict, they will always find a wayCapitalist Pig said:My main quips with religion in general are two issues:
1. It causes far too many wars.
2. It dictates too many aspects of believers lives, much of the time without any solid justification.
In this thread I've been arguing the second.
they wouldnt. then allah wouldnt be doing what he said right?SashatheMan said:yes some. and others made it through.
how do you explain picking up like 10 different qurans and they have differnt wording?
that is why there is a glossary to give a better meaning, or the more precise oneSashatheMan said:translating the quran into english is already a form of editing it. Then u traslate something from one language into another , its impossible to traslate it into exact same meaning as , some words may not exist which have a particular meaning in the other langauge.
mate allah can say not to do something, it doesnt mean that humans still wont do it. Anyone can make a fake interpretation of the quran, allah cant do shit about it.veterandoggy said:they wouldnt. then allah wouldnt be doing what he said right?
you talk like you have....
the glossory is still in english, which cant be translated exactly how it is intendedveterandoggy said:that is why there is a glossary to give a better meaning, or the more precise one
But the diversity of lifestyles is what makes a society interesting. Eg if everyone wore blue and listened to britney spears I'd certainly get bored pretty quickly, wouldn't you?veterandoggy said:it does this so that there are less conflicts with the way people live their lives, but if people want to conflict, they will always find a way
and for killing innocent people, there are more condemnings of evil than verses which could be misinterpreted. and what i mean is that there are many good thingsa about islam, which are shrouded by the things which people have decided to translate using their primitive wisdom
he will stop it from spreading too farSashatheMan said:mate allah can say not to do something, it doesnt mean that humans still wont do it. Anyone can make a fake interpretation of the quran, allah cant do shit about it.
its like saying allah is against killing a person , so if someone tries to kill a person some force will come and prevent him from doing so, its just ludacris to think that.
and look on the internet sites, theres like 10 differnt variations of each verse. and you said it yuorself that the differnt books hold differnt wording
saahatheman said:the glossory is still in english, which cant be translated exactly how it is intendedexactly why the best references are in arabic. and exactly why youd get sucked in by any translation: you dont know if that is the true wording or not
yes i would, that is why there are different religions. the prophet didnt try killing every non muslim he saw, but he did banish the jews after they tried conspiring against him. and that isnt what i mean. i mean that if one wanted to look at how to do something, they needn't look far.Capitalist Pig said:But the diversity of lifestyles is what makes a society interesting. Eg if everyone wore blue and listened to britney spears I'd certainly get bored pretty quickly, wouldn't you?
And as for condemning evil, should a murderer be judged on the many days he doesn't kill someone, or the one day that he doess?
Yep translating the Quran would be editing it- thats why we read it in arabicSashatheMan said:translating the quran into english is already a form of editing it. Then u traslate something from one language into another , its impossible to traslate it into exact same meaning as , some words may not exist which have a particular meaning in the other langauge.
1) Exactly!Capitalist Pig said:But the diversity of lifestyles is what makes a society interesting. Eg if everyone wore blue and listened to britney spears I'd certainly get bored pretty quickly, wouldn't you?
And as for condemning evil, should a murderer be judged on the many days he doesn't kill someone, or the one day that he doess?
But different religions all try to create thought clones within themselves then we end up with 4 or 5 different kinds of people as opposed to thousands if everyone was agnostic/atheist. The aim of the Islamic faith is to convert everyone, is it not? Hence creating a boring homogenous society.veterandoggy said:yes i would, that is why there are different religions. the prophet didnt try killing every non muslim he saw, but he did banish the jews after they tried conspiring against him. and that isnt what i mean. i mean that if one wanted to look at how to do something, they needn't look far.
besides, we may say this, but if we lived up in a world of blue clothing loving britney spears we wouldnt realy get bored. did you read nineteen eighty four by george orwell? i think that is where you got the blue overalls thingy, huh.
1. Why then does your religion:mr eazy said:1) Exactly!
2) A murderer should be judged according to the day he killed another being unlawfully with intent to unlawfully deprive another of life ; - as for the other days- we should acknowledge that that person had stayed clear of such evil acts - i.e: if the person "was a really good person" (this appears to be in line with public sentiment - believe it or not)