HotShot said:
No Offense, i understand how you feel towards the quran, but all religions have sceintific marvels. Hinduism, Buddhism and so on. You just have read their relevent texts, like the quran.
Another is Ancient Egyptians they themselves had some scientific marvels, pyramids, and so on. This was well before the quran was revealed. Same goes to other ancient civilisation, there is just so much information, that it is important to realise that many of these could well perhaps have existed before, you never know.
For example Greek mathematicans, yoga, Ayurveda
we recognise that, but these revelations were in additon to what was already known back then, the greek mathematicians discovered the intricacies of number with the instruments they possessed, the revelations in teh Qu'ran were so incredibly beyond their time it was in no way possible that Muhammed pbuh thought of them, being uneducated and illiterate, yes socially, morally and spiritually he was superior, but he had not been educated about the sciences or numerial workings of the universe thus proof this could only be the word of Allah
the Qu'ran stated that the future held a decrease in the numbers of males and an increase in teh numbers of females TRUE,
ok i got a list of signs of the future as orchastrated by Islam...nearing the end of the world as we know it, I'm not saying the end is tomorrow, but most of this is true if any of this information is wrong please tell me..because this is a website and I don't know the exact pages of reference in the Qu'ran
anyway, this was stated well before it's time as was much of what is illustrated in the Qu'ran scientifically and numerically:
Signs of the last day
* When it will be regarded as a shame to act on Quranic injunctions.
* When untrustworthy people will be regarded as trustworthy and the trustworthy will be regarded as untrustworthy.
* When it will be hot in winter (and vice versa).
* When the length of days is stretched, i.e. a journey of a few days is covered in a matter of hours.
* When orators and lecturers lie openly.
* When people dispute over petty issues.
* When women with children come displeased on account of them bearing offspring, and barren women remain happy on account of having no responsibility of offspring.
* When oppression, jealousy, and greed become the order of the day.
* When people blatantly follow their passions and whims.
* When lies prevail over the truth.
* When violence, bloodshed and anarchy become common.
* When immorality overtakes shamelessness and is perpetrated publicly.
* When legislation matters pertaining to Deen is handed over to the worst elements of the Ummat, and if people accept them and are satisfied with their findings, then such persons will not smell the fragrance of Jannat.
* When the offspring become a cause of grief and anger (for their parents).
p.s Jannat means heaven, I'm not sure what Ummat means
ok yoga and ayurveda, i'm indian so i know all about this, like the kama sutra these resulted after years of hindu/muslim wisemen researching the properties of roots, plants, herbs and soils...these discoveries were also research based and the resulting conclusions that, e.g CENTELLA ASIATICA is a blood purifier, toner, exfoliant, diuretic etc due to human curiosity and necessity which led to testing of different natural sources, the Qu'ran is different as none of this was researched by an human being prior to it's inscription. Ayurveda is actually a combination of ayurvedic medicine and umami medicine (ayurveda being more hindu based and umami being more islamic based). Therefore, although ayurveda is quite religiously intwined, the basis of it arose from neccesity and not religion.
i'll write more later
