Israel–Gaza conflict (3 Viewers)

[Iron]

Palestinians civilian casualties: 650
Israeli civilan casualties: 3

Do the maths. I support neither, Israel instigated this war and has led an atrocious campaign against a territory without anything that could be considered an army. Bare in mind the Gazans are sick, hungry and dying.

Ok, lets forget your sentiments, such as "Israel will pay for this" and "Gazans must strike back or die"

 

[MaNiElla]

You know it's always been true that my side in this debate haven't been the best at articulating the points of contention in regards to this issue as well as the other side. But for the most part that has changed. I mean apart from you, who else in this thread has been at all rational in regards to this debate from your side?

John Oliver himself began to get a bit more rational only recently. At the beginning of the thread, his posts were all "troll" posts, and lame attempts at sarcasm.

*troll post by John Oliver*

some one responds

*omg, what a stupid fuck job moon coon, good on ya for responding, you've proved your intelligence lolololololololol"

 

[Ben Netanyahu]

yes i'm somewhat concerned over whether shroedinger was serious or joking during this thread. very concerned. and puzzled.

anyway it's over now, so we simply have to wait for our discussion to bring its fruits into the real world!

 

[sam04u]

Ok, lets forget your sentiments, such as "Israel will pay for this" and "Gazans must strike back or die"

I'll give you my 10 danish ore's worth (equivalent to 0.02 USD). I remember when your rhetoric was so well refined, Iron. I guess you're getting a little rusty.

 

[Ben Netanyahu]

One might say that he has to weld his arguments together a little better, as they're somewhat weak at this time.

 

[Iron]

One might say that he has to weld his arguments together a little better, as they're somewhat weak at this time.

Where?

At least i'm not some sick fuck showering my posts with laughing emoticons

Palestinians are dying Holocaust




:rofl:

 

[DkAssain]

lol!!! this will cheer u up guys lets get over it!!!

A girl asks her boyfriend to come over Friday night and have dinner with her parents. Since this is such a big event, the girl announces to her boyfriend that after dinner, she would like to go out and make love for the first time.

Well, the boy is ecstatic, but he has never had sex before, so he takes a trip to the pharmacist to get some condoms. The pharmacist helps the boy for about an hour. He tells the boy everything there is to know about condoms and sex.

At the register, the pharmacist asks the boy how many condoms he'd like to buy, a 3-pack, 10-pack, or family pack. The boy insists on the family pack because he thinks he will be rather busy, it being his first time and all.

That night, the boy shows up at the girl's parents house and meets his girlfriend at the door. "Oh, I'm so excited for you to meet my parents, come on in!"

The boy goes inside and is taken to the dinner table where the girl's parents are seated. The boy quickly offers to say grace and bows his head.

A minute passes, and the boy is still deep in prayer, with his head down.

10 minutes pass, and still no movement from the boy.

Finally, after 20 minutes with his head down, the girlfriend leans over and whispers to the boyfriend, "I had no idea you were this religious."

The boy turns, and whispers back, "I had no idea your father was a pharmacist."

 

[davidbarnes]

It doesn't take a brilliant scientist (such as Einstein) to work out how Gaza can solve this. If Hamas stops firing rockets into Israel, then Israel will leave gaza. Simple. Until then israel has every right to destroy gaza to stop attacks on its civillains by hamas, the elected govenment of Gaza.

As for the whoel force proportionality arguement, look at it this way: A man is trying to kill you. Yo ucall the poilice. Do you expect 1 proportional police officer to turn up, or every police unit available? EXACTLY.

 

[DkAssain]

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[m00]

As for the whoel force proportionality arguement, look at it this way: A man is trying to kill you. Yo ucall the poilice. Do you expect 1 proportional police officer to turn up, or every police unit available? EXACTLY.

police officers are taught restraint, they are disciplined (unlike Israeli soldiers), they wont shoot everything that moves.

EXACTLY.

 

[davidbarnes]

If Canberra be came its own coutnry and started shellign Sydney, we woudl want everythign doen to stop them. You go to war to win, not to lose. Face it ,Israel has a far superior military, and the terrorits (hamas) are bloody idiots. They now admit that Israel reacted far greater than they expected them to, so heopfully they've now learnt a lesson (like Lebanon did).

 

[davidbarnes]

Soldiers are also taught restraint.

 

[moll.]

Soldiers are also taught restraint.

That's laughable.
They're taught to kill in the most efficient way possible in order to avoid their own deaths. They also have virtually zero accountability for their actions upon the battlefield.
An Israeli soldier sees something suspicious or something move suddenly whilst clearing out a building suspected to be full of Hamas terrorists, he's going to shoot first and ask questions later.
Now come back to reality, before you start telling me porn movies have good plotlines.

 

[Gerald10]

If Canberra be came its own coutnry and started shellign Sydney, we woudl want everythign doen to stop them.

FFS. That is a ridiculous over simplification that completely ignores the history of the region.

As I have said before - this situation is like a guy banging on your apartment door threatening to kill you. It wouldn't be pleasant. Except actually it was his apartment that you just strollled into and claimed ownership of and then proceded to lock him in your hallway for 5 years and feed him a potato a day.

 

[ChockoRepublic]

That's laughable.
They're taught to kill in the most efficient way possible in order to avoid their own deaths. They also have virtually zero accountability for their actions upon the battlefield.
An Israeli soldier sees something suspicious or something move suddenly whilst clearing out a building suspected to be full of Hamas terrorists, he's going to shoot first and ask questions later.
Now come back to reality, before you start telling me porn movies have good plotlines.

Some porn movies do, mr. moll.

 

[$hiftyIceQueen]

That's laughable.
They're taught to kill in the most efficient way possible in order to avoid their own deaths. They also have virtually zero accountability for their actions upon the battlefield.
An Israeli soldier sees something suspicious or something move suddenly whilst clearing out a building suspected to be full of Hamas terrorists, he's going to shoot first and ask questions later.

Agreed.

It doesn't take a brilliant scientist (such as Einstein) to work out how Gaza can solve this. If Hamas stops firing rockets into Israel, then Israel will leave gaza. Simple. Until then israel has every right to destroy gaza to stop attacks on its civillains by hamas, the elected govenment of Gaza.

Waaaah?!

If Hamas stop firing? They stopped firing since July, and what did that get them? They were starved, theeen Israel fires into Gaza. You cannot expect Hamas to be silent, and Israel to do as it pleases. If one side stops firing/treating the other like shit, then the other should stop too.

And NOBODY has the right to destory ANYTHING. Israel is targetting buildings with over 100 people in them, which is why so many civilians are injured/dead/dying. No matter who the elected the government, the people shouldn't have to pay the price. PLUS i don't recall seeing 5 year olds going to vote for Hamas.

Ohh, and as i said before, just before this 'conflict' began, Hamas wasn't very popular. Now that's changed though. So please do thank Israel for this.

 

[Martyno1]

It doesn't take a genius to see who the real terrorists are...

You go to war to win, not to lose. Face it ,Israel has a far superior military, and the terrorits (hamas) are bloody idiots. They now admit that Israel reacted far greater than they expected them to, so heopfully they've now learnt a lesson (like Lebanon did).

I hope you mean Hezbollah, not Lebanon, and they didn't learn any lessons from 2006 anyway... as far as I can tell they're still firing rockets into northern Israel. And really, the way you're speaking makes it look like Israel won the war against Hezbollah in 2006, which it definitely didn't.

And I bet most people in Israel can't wait to get rid of Olmert.

 

[rasengan90]

FFS. That is a ridiculous over simplification that completely ignores the history of the region.

As I have said before - this situation is like a guy banging on your apartment door threatening to kill you. It wouldn't be pleasant. Except actually it was his apartment that you just strollled into and claimed ownership of and then proceded to lock him in your hallway for 5 years and feed him a potato a day.

Top stealing your analogies from Jon Stewart.

 

[King.BBjames]

i am so fucking pissed off at Israel. fucking bomb Saudi Arabia, Syria and Egypt for the lolz. PLEASE!

and Dubai.

 

[blue_chameleon]

i am so fucking pissed off at Israel. fucking bomb Saudi Arabia, Syria and Egypt for the lolz. PLEASE!

and Dubai.

Oh hai!! :wave:

How are the bannings going for you, Jim?