Re: Israel & Palestine
HotShot said:
You do realise the middle eastern conflict - is a primarily a political conflict drivin by religious motives?
be very careful in your statement because the stark majority of israelis are not religious in any sense of the word...they just happen to be of jewish decent purely because of the past mass immigration to a 'jewish' homeland at a time when people with any traces of jewish blood were treated like dirt for the mere fact that they were jewish and this doesnt just include the holocaust.
The jews will defend Israel on two basis - the Holocaust and the God's will. Those are there two primary reasons.
not all jews support israel and not all supporters of israel are jewish.
each 'defender' of israels right to exist will have their own reasoning.
the idea of the holocaust as a reason for israel's existence stems from the notion of continual jewish persucation dating back hundreds if not thousands of years. the holocaust was just seen as the cherry on the top...the event that pushed the notion of zionism and the idea for a jewish state over the edge and into practice.
many religious people will use the 'god's will' reason. i say each to their own.
there are other reasons that people will use but the main ones stem from the notion that a religion/race/whatever you may characterise the jewish people to be, have been persucuted and exiled from the region for hundreds of years and a land where jews can escape too was needed and created.
for the Arabs - it has always been there land, and they have been mishandled by the British.
the arabs have not always had this land! the jews had been present for many years and exiled first from this land and then from other countries.
yes they may have been mishandled by the british but the jews werent given the greatest treatment either. that has no standard credibility because if we trace back in time i could name many countries who mishandled jews throughout the ages...doesnt mean they have claim to the land of those countries
After all the region was under British mandate, and it was them who where controlling the region's affairs. Controlling immigration and trying to settle disputes.
But of course the poms dont do a good job at anything, they screwed they allowed too many jews into the country.
yes they were controlling immigration, but that majorly limited jewish immigration especially after the holocaust! jews had to illegally make their way not only into the heavily restricted region but also many other countries not willing to take jews in.
