Israel preparing strike against Iran (3 Viewers)

[jb_nc]

He is an Israeli and therefore has worms.

This is an example of a formally fallacious argument.

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

Where's the comparison? What am I looking at? Respond to me Jew.

But hey man, I'm no defender of the Arabs in general. I just prefer them over Israel. Arabs scare me. They kill lots of Westeners. Palestinians don't.

 

[Iron]

I'm not sure. I'm not sure that coming up with concrete points where a war is justified is something that I'm comfortable with. In any case, I know that occasional rocket attacks from freedom fighters and the kidnapping of a soldier or two is not enough to justify the massive death and destruction inflicted on both sides (IDF and civilians of Lebanon). Only dickwads such as Israelis and Schro the Jew would try to claim otherwise.

Yeah, so youd be happy for Israeli's to be randomly murdered and kidnapped indefinately because Israel has no right to respond to a build up of these things?

Not me. I would voluntarily leave the country if Aboriginals decided that the white man should indeed leave.

Of course you would

 

[bigboyjames01]

deep down, everyone knows that Israel is a temporary country. its existence is proportional to US/western hegemony. Israel will fall.

edit: i hate you iron. LOLZ

 

[blue_chameleon]

Not me. I would voluntarily leave the country if Aboriginals decided that the white man should indeed leave.

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

Watch me cunt!

Yeah, so youd be happy for Israeli's to be randomly murdered and kidnapped indefinately because Israel has no right to respond to a build up of these things?

No, Israel would have a right to respond, but it ought to be proportional. This is what I've been saying (or trying to say) all along. Unfortunately, Israel doesn't have a right to respond because it's not a state, it is a terrorist regime.

 

[Trefoil]

No, Israel would have a right to respond, but it ought to be proportional. This is what I've been saying (or trying to say) all along. Unfortunately, Israel doesn't have a right to respond because it's not a state, it is a terrorist regime.

How does it feel to be such a shithouse bastard?

 

[Iron]

I'm being serious. Youre saying that Israel has no right to defend herself against violence because they are a group of people who deserve violence for existing

 

[hur91]

Well, we all remember how responsible the Americans were with their nuclear weapons.

Maybe Israel should invade the US and annihilate their nuclear facilites seeing as they are so concerned for human rights etc

I dont think Israel should be blown back to the mediterranean, but occasionally the Israeli authorities do engage in irrational operations. Although Israel does experience hostility from its neighbours, one has to empathise with the Palestinians (not muslims or arabs, I'm talking about PALESTINIANS) - I mean, whats the reason for the theft of their land and their serenity? At the least, they should have a right to Israeli Citizenship.

 

[Edu.kid]

How would any of you like it if someone came to your house and forcibly kicked you out, and there reason was that they used to live here. Or even funnier because god gave them this land. Since when did god have favourites. Someone can just invent a religion claiming that god promised them North America. Why didn't the Europeans or Americans establish a state for jews in their countries if they care about them so much? Or was their a strategic and tactical motive behind as opposed to religious.

 

[JaredR]

Israel is graced by Hashem and the West - she will never fall to the evil oppressors who wait with blood thirsty eyes on all her borders.

 

[Trefoil]

Israel is graced by Hashem and the West - she will never fall to the evil oppressors who wait with blood thirsty eyes on all her borders.

Israel is graced by The Name? Well then, there's no way they can fail!

 

[Wheelbarrows]

Israel is graced by Hashem and the West - she will never fall to the evil oppressors who wait with blood thirsty eyes on all her borders.

evil oppressors who wait with blood thirsty eyes on all her borders?

sounds uncannily like israel itself.

 

[Trefoil]

evil oppressors who wait with blood thirsty eyes on all her borders?

sounds uncannily like israel itself.

Says the Palestinian. No bias there, hey?

 

[Zephyrio]

LOL at this thread. Seriously..

 

[Wheelbarrows]

Says the Palestinian. No bias there, hey?

dude, let me tell you a story.

i've got a family friend who came from palestine to australia looking for better opportunities for him and his family. anyway, after staying here for a while (maybe 2 months) he found that australia really wasn't the right country for him. he's specialisations were just not compatable with australia's industries.

anyway, he attempted to return to palestine after realising that australia just wouldn't work for him, but the israelis wouldn't allow him back in because of the simple fact that he's palestinian. he had to sit here for an extra two years to get himself and his family australian citizenships in order to be allowed back into his own fucking country. he was only allowed to return home a few days ago, and only because he held an australian passport.

the israeli government is pretty disgusting.

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

I'm being serious. Youre saying that Israel has no right to defend herself against violence because they are a group of people who deserve violence for existing

Unless they vacate the premesis. If you regard Israel as a country that ought to defend itself (I don't, I regard it as a terrorist regime that ought to be defeated), then yes they ought to defend themselves. But for the umpteenth time, the situation a few years back was not grounds for authorising an all out war, let alone an all out war against people who didn't deserve it.

Jesus fuck. What the fucking holy shit

Respond to what I've said sir. I challenge you. Arab vs Jew. And I like the way you can regard one group who terrorises as terrorists, but refuse to regard another group that terrorises as terrorists. Nice bit of consistency from a pro-Israeli...oh wait...:rofl:

LOL at this thread. Seriously.

GG 08'er!

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

the israeli government is pretty disgusting.

Nah man. This man was CLEARLY posing a threat to Israeli autonomy and so on. Palestinians are NOT God's chosen people, they did not kill Jesus and all things good, therefore they do NOT have a right to ANYTHING. Let's crowd them into the Gaza Strip, starve them, dehydrate them and let them live in sewerage.

Nice job Israel!

 

[Iron]

Unless they vacate the premesis. If you regard Israel as a country that ought to defend itself (I don't, I regard it as a terrorist regime that ought to be defeated), then yes they ought to defend themselves. But for the umpteenth time, the situation a few years back was not grounds for authorising an all out war, let alone an all out war against people who didn't deserve it.

The point is that medieval thinking like yours (assuming youre genuine) prevents a satisfactory solution and prolongs the violence. Israel has a right to exist and will continue to exist, despite your inflammatory inflexibility. It has been sought since Moses and decided after the greatest war fought and greatest horror wrought. The very fact that you see violence as a legitimate tool against Israel shows why people who think like you and have the balls to act on it will continue failing to achieve anything meaningful apart from death and destruction. Violence begets violence, these things escalate and spiral. When an opponent takes the life of one of your family or friend, that opponent has become a life-long enemy, someone whose own death is justice, an object with diminished humanity. This goes on and on and ensures that there will be no fair agreement for the weaker party, the Palestinians.

Take a leaf out of Mandella or Ghandi's book. Islam's a religion of peace, right?

 

[hur91]

Israel has a right to exist

So does Palestine.

I agree with the whole pacifist approach, but if the problem is to be solved, it must take to heart, the interest of all those who call/ed the land that Israel is on, home.
So...does anyone have any ideas how to solve this issue?
Something practical, and one that does not require mass death and destruction please.