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[withoutaface]

I reckon most people wouldn't know who he was

Most people probably didn't know who Che was till he was all over those T-shirts either.

 

[leetom]

I also enjoy a fair bit of old Communist memorabilia. My favourite is the Mao watch. The long hand is replaced witht he Chairman's outstrechted arm. Midday is so much more exiting when Mao's arm eclipses the Red Star which has taken the place of the number 12! I also have a wall-clock from a Soviet submarine, similarly fashioned with the Red Star.

The jacket I wear most days is Red Star brand. I tried googling it for more info, but there's nothing. I love it, standard drab blue just like a Chinese peasant.

I admire National Socialist items as well. I would happliy don those attractive knee high leather boots, the motorcycle goggles, the 'kraut-hat' (helmet), change my Volkswagen numberplate to include the letters 'KdF', and attach the Reich Eagle/Swastika pin anyday, were it not for public outrage.

Perhpas if I wear the hammer and sickle, the Red Star and the Reich Eagle together?

 

[withoutaface]

I also enjoy a fair bit of old Communist memorabilia. My favourite is the Mao watch. The long hand is replaced witht he Chairman's outstrechted arm. Midday is so much more exiting when Mao's arm eclipses the Red Star which has taken the place of the number 12! I also have a wall-clock from a Soviet submarine, similarly fashioned with the Red Star.

The jacket I wear most days is Red Star brand. I tried googling it for more info, but there's nothing. I love it, standard drab blue just like a Chinese peasant.

I admire National Socialist items as well. I would happliy don those attractive knee high leather boots, the motorcycle goggles, the 'kraut-hat' (helmet), change my Volkswagen numberplate to include the letters 'KdF', and attach the Reich Eagle/Swastika pin anyday, were it not for public outrage.

Perhpas if I wear the hammer and sickle, the Red Star and the Reich Eagle together?

I always knew you were a filthy red.

 

[paper cup]

I was in a lecture last week with Ziff (Hungarian). A poonse came up to us proudly wearing a huge hammer and sickle badge, and he wondered why we both blanched.

The fucking idiot. Incidentally, I also have an Eastern European/Austrian background, so to people like us who's grandparents and parents suffered directly under an oppressive Russian regime - the sickle and hammer is equally as offensive as any Nazi symbol.

lol neo was this charles
the hammer and sickle is the symbol of alliance between the peasants and proletariat, the ideals which espoused it weren't offensive, in fact they must have been quite inspiring to people suffering in the early stages of the industrial revolution when workers rights were non existent
it's just a pity things turned out the way they did....

 

[leetom]

I always knew you were a filthy red.

I was...but I discontinued my subscription to the Communist Party just last week. The Reds back at Red HQ sent me a letter demanding re-subscription, but I ignored it.

Problem is, the bastards are still sending me the weekly issues. My car is full of them.

On another note, does anybody else like the Red Army Choir? I mean the old one, back when the Soviet Union was still around. Songs like The Red Cavalry, Ochie Chernye...

 

[Comrade nathan]

On another note, does anybody else like the Red Army Choir? I mean the old one, back when the Soviet Union was still around. Songs like The Red Cavalry, Ochie Chernye...

I have a Red Choir song, the Sacred Banner of Lenin. I don't know if its made in the Soviet era or post.

 

[Rorix]

The Western propaganda in this thread is absolutely disgusting.

 

[paper cup]

US exectutes approximately 70 convicted criminals each year.
China executes in the order of 2000, and that is only the "official" statistic, and also how is turning a blind eye to the abandonment of very young children (girls especially) any different to executing them?
EDIT: Also I'm unsure what you mean by the US executing children.

yes but the population of china is twice the US's
and law and order isn't exactly spesh there either. you have to remember, economy is US in 1892. has effects on crime and so on

 

[withoutaface]

yes but the population of china is twice the US's
and law and order isn't exactly spesh there either. you have to remember, economy is US in 1892. has effects on crime and so on

Even if we account for the population difference, China still executes ten times as many people per capita as the US.

 

[paper cup]

Even if we account for the population difference, China still executes ten times as many people per capita as the US.

but how many times more corrupt and inefficient is the chinese judicial system?
we're talking victorian era - 1892
the law is primitive in comparison to America's and atop that there's a huge difference between what's on paper and what happens in real life
the quality of the people isn't good (I'm not sure if the translation is correct. the chinese term is 'wen hua shu zhe' and I'm not sure if I got the pinyin right. goddamn it my chinese is just getting worse and worse). education is a luxury and a lot of the people's moral and ethical standards are definitely not as refined as in the west.
if there weren't harsh measures in place civil order would be seriously threatened
nothing can be done about it at this stage. I'll put it this way, if you can't even afford to feed your kids how can you afford to send them to ballet class? I know it might sound ludicrous but in developing countries where conditions are overwhelmingly primitive human rights are a luxury. that's right. a luxury. gives you an idea of how lucky people in the West are.
in a few decades - some people reckon 30 years but that's a bit ambitious, maybe 50ish since the technology is available. once the economy is developed world standard everything will follow.

 

[Phanatical]

twice the population? Try four,five times.

 

[supercharged]

No more than that!

From the net:

China's population:
1,306,313,812 (July 2005 est.)

America's population:
295,734,134 (July 2005 est.)

 

[Rorix]

Thank you for that contribution supercharged........

 

[paper cup]

No more than that!

From the net:

China's population:
1,306,313,812 (July 2005 est.)

America's population:
295,734,134 (July 2005 est.)

urgh I read somewhere that it was 500 000 000?
maybe I just remembered wrong. sorry!

 

[withoutaface]

CCP: We picked up where Hitler left off, and we're 20x better at it too.

Editted because I misread a holocaust statistic.

 

[paper cup]

CCP: We picked up where Hitler left off, and we're 500x better at it too.

waf the situation is totally different!
hitler's ideology was perverted in the first place socialism just got screwed while it was being implemented

 

[withoutaface]

waf the situation is totally different!
hitler's ideology was perverted in the first place socialism just got screwed while it was being implemented

They knew socialism was screwed, they came to power after Stalin had already been there for 23 years.

 

[paper cup]

They knew socialism was screwed, they came to power after Stalin had already been there for 23 years.

I think you're forgetting the turmoil the country was in before 1949, they basically grasped at anything that had a remote chance of working and clung to it
what would you have done?
PLUS you have to remember, it was 1949 and russia was closed to the world, nobody knew much about the atrocities. china had been invaded by foreigners, the british and then the japanese, do you think they'd trust an ideology spawned by them? - ie capitalism

 

[withoutaface]

I think you're forgetting the turmoil the country was in before 1949, they basically grasped at anything that had a remote chance of working and clung to it
what would you have done?
PLUS you have to remember, it was 1949 and russia was closed to the world, nobody knew much about the atrocities. china had been invaded by foreigners, the british and then the japanese, do you think they'd trust an ideology spawned by them? - ie capitalism

Well I certainly wouldn't have seized power without the consent of the populous then have the nerve to call it the People's Republic of China. If the CCP know they have such support from the people, why to they so passionatly dodge the implementation of a democratic system? By all means introduce communism, but don't ram it down people's throats when they don't want it.

EDIT: And I believe that it was the evil Capitalist pigs in the United States that saved China from the Japanese. They would have seen the US as being the most powerful nation on Earth - precisely what they wanted to be.