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No, I am not Graham White, I'm Chris Leong. Thanks for the "compliment".
 

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Invasion of Ruse! Can't say I mind exactly.

Hello. :)
 

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Off the topic but why does 2+2=5? Is it something like rounding back to the nearest number, or is it something smarter?
 
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In the limit as x approaches infinity, x + x = 2x + 1
Therefore, in the limit as 2 approaches infinity, 2 + 2 = 5
 

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Crickets chirp.

On that note, you can get a rough idea of the temperature by counting how many chirps a cricket makes in 15 seconds and then adding 37. That's the temperature in Fahrenheit.
 

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PtolemysPenguin said:
In the limit as x approaches infinity, x + x = 2x + 1
Therefore, in the limit as 2 approaches infinity, 2 + 2 = 5
i dont get it
 

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He's treating a constant, 2, as if it is a variable. Nothing particularly flummoxing about it.
 

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So you go as "2" approaches infinity, "2" + "2" = 2*("2") + 1 = 5. Is that how it goes? But you are taking "2" as a variable like "x" rather than the constant number 2. Since "2" in the bracket is not actually the number 2 so you can't get 5. Or is there more to it? That's pretty cool though, I was thinking about the rounding off thing with 2 + 2 = 5. Like 2.3 + 2.3 = 4.6, then round off to the nearest integer 2 + 2 = 5.

I don't understand you Slide Rule, what's 1984 and crickets chirp got to do with this?
 
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The line "As 2 approaches infinity" pretty much sums up what's wrong with it, but I think it's funny.
 

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I don't see any problems with that argument.

"If" 2 + 2 = 5 then it's actually true that 2 = 2.5
 

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MAICHI said:
So you go as "2" approaches infinity, "2" + "2" = 2*("2") + 1 = 5. Is that how it goes? But you are taking "2" as a variable like "x" rather than the constant number 2. Since "2" in the bracket is not actually the number 2 so you can't get 5. Or is there more to it? That's pretty cool though, I was thinking about the rounding off thing with 2 + 2 = 5. Like 2.3 + 2.3 = 4.6, then round off to the nearest integer 2 + 2 = 5.

I don't understand you Slide Rule, what's 1984 and crickets chirp got to do with this?
1984 is the book which popularised "2+2=5".

Circkets chirping is what you hear when a joke falls flat. Perhaps "tumbleweed blows" would have been better?
 

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Going off on a tangent

-Wow, this thread veered of it's original course quickly.


Yeah, too bad 2+2 DOES NOT equal 5.

But whilst we are on the topic of absurd postulation consider this:
If 1=2 then;
A. Do we have 4 hands ?
B. Do we have 1 hand ?
 

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Slide Rule said:
1984 is the book which popularised "2+2=5".

Circkets chirping is what you hear when a joke falls flat. Perhaps "tumbleweed blows" would have been better?
and the funny thing is Orwell makes more sense than the mathematics of our time, or any for that matter, ever will. When it gets closer to the due date I might submit my EE2 major work touching on these fundamentals.
 

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Stefano said:
-Wow, this thread veered of it's original course quickly.


Yeah, too bad 2+2 DOES NOT equal 5.

But whilst we are on the topic of absurd postulation consider this:
If 1=2 then;
A. Do we have 4 hands ?
B. Do we have 1 hand ?
I define a new set, &, to consist of the following:
& = {0, 1 , 2, 3 , 5, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 20 ...}, and & follows the same rules as the set N. Hence 2+2=5.
 

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We have z hands, where z is the new two, and 4 must equal z+z. :)
 

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I dunno, I think that some of those phrases ring truer than mathematics. Mathematics is, after all, a construct on the part of man to explain physical phenomena. Nihilism does make sense in some respects, despite the fact that it's an utterly useless philosophy. But yeh, the world has many more facets than the simple one we live in along with the relatively simple concept of mathematics that we've created. You can take whatever meaning out of what i just said that you so desire.:cool:
 
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