kokodamonkey
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are there even mark requirements for international students? i thought it was just monetary.
And it works the other way too!Stazi said:Yeah, it's not like governments haven't ever made stupid economic decisions, in order to propagate their ideology...
I'm suggesting that since it's much harder to obtain the funds from international students from a HECS type loan, and that since we rely on their money, that perhaps it would be best at this time to allow international fee paying students to continue to attend our universities, but to ensure that they can't get in unless their marks are higher than domestic students. Even then, it's an iffy situation.Stazi said:...so you suggest that we decrease the intake of international students and cut off the intake of students who achieve lower than the HECS cutoff.
do you think the best students come to Australia to study? no, they go to Oxford, Harvard, etc. The international students we get in Oz are generally of lower 'quality'. You are admitting that our universities are reliant on funding from full fee sources. Yet you are suggesting that we should cut off the majority of those sources.Nebuchanezzar said:And it works the other way too!
I'm suggesting that since it's much harder to obtain the funds from international students from a HECS type loan, and that since we rely on their money, that perhaps it would be best at this time to allow international fee paying students to continue to attend our universities, but to ensure that they can't get in unless their marks are higher than domestic students. Even then, it's an iffy situation.
I have found that the majority of left-wing students are a disgrace. I have learned this from being at USYD for over three years. The arguments lack any logic, and their 'policy suggestions' are merely based on conformity to being part of the left.zimmerman8k said:seriously that Nebuchanezzar is a disgrace to the left. he almost makes me want to join the young libs.
The best go to Harvard. Do you seriously suggest that there won't be enough students left over from these elite universities to make up the places offered in Australian univerisites? That's asinine.Stazi said:do you think the best students come to Australia to study? no, they go to Oxford, Harvard, etc. The international students we get in Oz are generally of lower 'quality'. You are admitting that our universities are reliant on funding from full fee sources. Yet you are suggesting that we should cut off the majority of those sources.
Then lol.Stazi said:Yes. I do.
lol it's even looked down on to go to uni in Australia rather than in some of their own countriesstazi said:Yes. I do. There are many excellent non-elite universities overseas. It is also a common perception (particular in Asia) that people who go to uni in Australia from that region are those who aren't good enough to go the UK/US. There needs to be some sort of incentive for international students to attend school here. That incentive can come in the form of lower cutoffs
Indeed, and the notion that there aren't enough international students who acheive above the required UAI's for every course is not a logical argument.Stazi said:Proof on what? There will never be proof, therefore we have to argue based on assumptions. This is the nature of politics, and almost everything in life. Hwwever, one argument can be more logical than another.
Even so, are they starved of funds like they would be in your magical analogy?Stazi said:actually, no there aren't. many courses have vacancies, even after the final round. also, the courses have much lower cut-offs than the top Aussie universities, so as to attract students.