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Rudd delays carbon trading scheme for one year (1 Viewer)
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DavidBenGurion
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Global warming is a myth propagated to ween us off dwindling supplies of oil
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I kind of agree
Im pissed off that the gov didnt start earlier while our economy was booming, instead of raising interest rates and suffering from higher and higher levels of private debt
Im pissed off that the gov didnt start earlier while our economy was booming, instead of raising interest rates and suffering from higher and higher levels of private debt
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Yes. Every country affects the environment, but some do so much more than others. Australias contribution is like pissing in the ocean, even if we half our carbon emissions, thats only equivalent to everyone in germany not driving for a few days a year. Everyone in Australia could own 20 SUVs , we still wouldn't even come close to the carbon emissions of America in one day.
We can either cripple our ecconomy so we can feel good about the environment but make no real difference [especially with china and india ramping up their industry] or we can choose to boost our ecconomy and just keep the environment in mind, florescent light bulbs and stuff like that is a fantastic idea, fucking up the steel industry? not so much.
BTW i dont know shit about the economy or the environment, this is just opinion based on what people better than me have said, and knowing me i probably foolishly got it wrong and what they said was totally different to my interpretation.
We can either cripple our ecconomy so we can feel good about the environment but make no real difference [especially with china and india ramping up their industry] or we can choose to boost our ecconomy and just keep the environment in mind, florescent light bulbs and stuff like that is a fantastic idea, fucking up the steel industry? not so much.
BTW i dont know shit about the economy or the environment, this is just opinion based on what people better than me have said, and knowing me i probably foolishly got it wrong and what they said was totally different to my interpretation.
A morally poor, but accurate argument.
Carbon trading is pointless without an international market, with all major polluters involved. The idea that minor countries like Australia starting up carbon trading will work to put pressure on major polluters is pretty dodgy.
Carbon trading will never happen and never work. Anthropocentric CO2 emissions will not be significantly reduced in our lifetimes and the global warming consequences of that will be realized.
For sustainability, there needs to be major global philosophical shifts in attitudes to consumption and population. I'm optimistic these will come about by necessity, although we may have paid a large price by the time they do come about.
If a trading scheme was intiated, wouldnt the funds acquired by the gov. (most likely) be used constructively in the fields of renewable energy? If so wouldnt that result in a big push for sci-research in renewable energy, ultimately (hopefully) creating a new trade of environmental technologies that will be more efficent and viable then fossil fuels, therby sustaining the economy?
Undoubtedly renewable energy will become a future in world trade. Perhaps it is a bit far away. But a stepping stone now may mean great growth, and perhaps Australia becoming a world leader in the futre.
Undoubtedly renewable energy will become a future in world trade. Perhaps it is a bit far away. But a stepping stone now may mean great growth, and perhaps Australia becoming a world leader in the futre.