Speculative ATAR estimate (1 Viewer)

[jimmysmith560]

hello i am so scared for hsc because even though i feel pretty confident in my subjs, i am super unsure of how the scaling will ultimately affect my atar. i am aiming for a 99.5+ and i was wondering if people could give insights into what marks they got relative to their atar or give me a prediction based on my ranks...

these are in order of subj | rank | how many people got a b6 last year (for context, my school is top 5)

engadv | 2/153 | 66
mx1 | 15/128 | 79
mx2 | 14/65 | 43
modern | 2/30 | 10
legal (i did accel last yr and got 95)

i heard that @jimmysmith560 is the expert but anyone's advice would be awesome! thanks

Your current performance is of a very high standard and it seems consistent with an ATAR up to 99.7, meaning that your ATAR goal of 99.5+ is definitely within reach. I agree with the above posts, which emphasise the importance of performing at the same standard in all of your HSC exams. Your HSC exams contribute the remaining 50% of your overall HSC marks across your subjects. You should therefore ensure that you apply your highly effective study strategy as you continue to prepare for your HSC exams, allowing you to maintain this level of performance, ultimately maximising your chances of achieving your ATAR goal.

All the best!

 

[skzza]

Hi guys, these are my ranks:
24/30 maths advanced
8/33 english advanced
1/24 community and family studies – highkey cooked for this one
19/33 pdhpe
17/22 food tech
33/34 biology - i failed trials

My school is ranked 200+

My goal is to get a 99.5 atar. Would this be possible? Im hoping that my cafs and English rank carry me… hopefully i get a cafs state rank so that will contribute a lot to my atar

sorry bro but with those ranks and your school rank you're not likely to get a 99.5

 

[whattimeisit]

no

 

[skzza]

I lowkey don't know if you're trolling but if your school doesn't get a lot of b6 for maths eng pdhpe food tech and bio it seems like you're looking at max a mid 80 to low 90 atar rn

 

[skzza]

our teacher said that our cohort this year is much stronger than last

still, to get a 99.5 you'll need band 6s across all your subjects, realistically you're towards the bottom end of your cohort in bio, food tech and maths and it's unlikely you'll get a mid-90 overall mark for these three so unless you get 97+ externally in your subjects a 99 atar is virtually impossible how many b6s did you school get for each subject last year?

 

[Solarised]

Bruh being fr you looking like high 70s to low 80s ngl

 

[skzza]

Bruh being fr you looking like high 70s to low 80s ngl

fr bro I actually thought they were trolling w the 99.5

 

[Solarised]

fr bro I actually thought they were trolling w the 99.5

I was being nice to, realistically this is like low 70s ngl, even with some decent rankings they are in the bottom percentile for everything so idk if they gonna reach 80 so this has to be a troll

 

[skzza]

I was being nice to, realistically this is like low 70s ngl, even with some decent rankings they are in the bottom percentile for everything so idk if they gonna reach 80 so this has to be a troll

bro same I said 80s to 90s but being ranked that low is realistically a band 4 for bio pdh math and food tech an 80 is untouchable unless they insanely clutch externals

 

[Solarised]

bro same I said 80s to 90s but being ranked that low is realistically a band 4 for bio pdh math and food tech an 80 is untouchable unless they insanely clutch externals

90 is impossible, 85 still like 99% difficulty, 80 uhh idk, 76-77

 

[skzza]

90 is impossible, 85 still like 99% difficulty, 80 uhh idk, 76-77

fr sorry bro if you're going for law (since you commented on the lat post) you can't make usyd or unsw (unless you're gateway/mysydney) hope you can make mqu or elsewhere

 

[Solarised]

@jimmysmith560 What's your take on this?

 

[jimmysmith560]

@jimmysmith560

@jimmysmith560 What's your take on this?

Unfortunately, these ranks at a school ranked 200+ are not consistent with an ATAR of 99.5+. An ATAR of 99.5+ is very high, and at schools ranked in the 200+ range, maximising your chances of such a high ATAR from an internal perspective would require optimal ranks, that is, placing at least among the top 5, preferably top 3 and ideally first within your cohort across each of your subjects. You were able to achieve this in Community and Family Studies, but you would need to mirror this standard of performance across your subjects for your overall performance to be consistent with a 99.5+ ATAR.

On a different note, I came across another thread of yours. If your main goal is to study law at university, but you fear that you may not achieve a sufficiently high ATAR, a potential approach that you can consider against those that others suggested (all of which are still valid) is to study law at another university, where the ATAR requirement is lower or where you can receive an offer through a non-ATAR pathway. For example, the ATAR requirement for ACU's Bachelor of Laws is 75. You can also receive an offer for WSU's Bachelor of Laws (whether as a single degree or double degree), which requires an LSR of 90, by having adjustment factors applied to your selection rank, or through its HSC True Reward Early Offer Program. This will allow you to subsequently transfer to a more established law school such as that of USyd and UNSW, while retaining the ability to study law if you fail to transfer.

I hope this helps!

 

[JosephSeed]

Unfortunately, these ranks at a school ranked 200+ are not consistent with an ATAR of 99.5+. An ATAR of 99.5+ is very high, and at schools ranked in the 200+ range, maximising your chances of such a high ATAR from an internal perspective would require optimal ranks, that is, placing at least among the top 5, preferably top 3 and ideally first within your cohort across each of your subjects. You were able to achieve this in Community and Family Studies, but you would need to mirror this standard of performance across your subjects for your overall performance to be consistent with a 99.5+ ATAR.

On a different note, I came across another thread of yours. If your main goal is to study law at university, but you fear that you may not achieve a sufficiently high ATAR, a potential approach that you can consider against those that others suggested (all of which are still valid) is to study law at another university, where the ATAR requirement is lower or where you can receive an offer through a non-ATAR pathway. For example, the ATAR requirement for ACU's Bachelor of Laws is 75. You can also receive an offer for WSU's Bachelor of Laws (whether as a single degree or double degree), which requires an LSR of 90, by having adjustment factors applied to your selection rank, or through its HSC True Reward Early Offer Program. This will allow you to subsequently transfer to a more established law school such as that of USyd and UNSW, while retaining the ability to study law if you fail to transfer.

I hope this helps!

Hey mate, im in a similar situation as this guy, but i know i can get 90s in all my subjects . is 90 still looking achivable (plus its out 3rd year and the kids this year look much smarter). i flopped my ranks coz i procastinated during trials (i still am procastinating)

 

[iloveeggs]

there is no way you're not trolling right

 

[jimmysmith560]

Hey mate, im in a similar situation as this guy, but i know i can get 90s in all my subjects . is 90 still looking achivable (plus its out 3rd year and the kids this year look much smarter). i flopped my ranks coz i procastinated during trials (i still am procastinating)

HSC exam marks of 90+ across your subjects would certainly increase your chances of achieving an ATAR of 90 significantly. If your cohort also performs favourably in the HSC exams, this will likely have positive consequences in terms of your Assessment Marks, which also helps improve your chances of achieving your ATAR goal.

 

[C_master]

Hi guys, these are my ranks:
24/30 maths advanced
8/33 english advanced
1/24 community and family studies – highkey cooked for this one
19/33 pdhpe
17/22 food tech
33/34 biology - i failed trials

My school is ranked 200+

My goal is to get a 99.5 atar. Would this be possible? Im hoping that my cafs and English rank carry me… hopefully i get a cafs state rank so that will contribute a lot to my atar

wait im fr curious what made you think you were gunning for a .5?

 

[Solarised]

wait im fr curious what made you think you were gunning for a .5?

Law (they created a whole thread on what happens if I get a 70 atar and want to do law)

 

[spiderfan44]

dude get on improving your food tech ASAP. the scaling is fucking atrocious for that subject.

 

[jimmysmith560]

My school is ranked in the 130s:

Subject	Assessment Rank	Band 6s	My trial mark + trial rank
English Advanced	22/70	0 (2023), 3 (2022), 3 (2021)	78 + 30/70
Visual Arts	2/10	2 (2023), 3 (2022), 0 (2021)	86 + 2/10
Modern History	2/14	0 (2023), 0 (2022), 1 (2021)	86 + 1/14
Society and culture	5/25	2 (2023), 2 (2022), 2 (2021)	78 + 4/25 (messed up in trials but could get a 90 or high band 5)
Community and Family Studies	5/35	4 (2023), 0 (2022), 0 (2021)	90 + 2/35

I'm aiming for around a 75-80 ATAR to do a bachelor of arts.

From this information, you seem to be on track with an ATAR of up to 80.5. This means that the upper end of your ATAR goal is definitely within reach, subject to similar HSC exam performance.

Visual Arts is your best-performing subject, meaning that it is likely to make the best contribution to your ATAR out of your subject combination. To ensure that you achieve your ATAR goal, you should thoroughly prepare for your Visual Arts HSC, which will allow you to perform well and maintain a favourable level of overall performance.

The same can be suggested about your performance in Modern History as well as Community and Family Studies, although to a slightly lesser extent. This means that while both subjects are likely to make a contribution that is consistent with your ATAR goal, you may be able to improve your overall performance in both subjects through favourable HSC exam performance, thereby enhancing the contributions of these subjects to your ATAR.

Lastly, English Advanced as well as Society and Culture appear to be your lowest-performing subjects. This indicates that, compared to your other subjects, this is where there is the largest room for improvement. As such, you may wish to consider focusing more on your preparations for their HSC exam to ensure the best possible result and ultimately maximise your chances of reaching (and potentially exceeding) your desired ATAR.

I hope this helps!