standard english - raw mark to aim for (1 Viewer)

[shady145]

okay first, ive been told on this site that std and adv english scale the same, but the advanced english teacher at my school told her class that advanced scales better. so what is correct, if they scale the same what are the advantages of doing advanced over standard.

okay secondly, assuming they scale the same, would u need to obtain the same raw mark, or would you have to aim higher?

 

[tris123]

obviously advanced is going to scale better, its a harder subject. aim for a raw mark of 90% and u'll be fine

 

[shady145]

obviously advanced is going to scale better, its a harder subject. aim for a raw mark of 90% and u'll be fine

well some people would like to argue against what u said. its a harder subjeect? do they mark harder in advanced? how do u know

 

[Lebosouljah]

in some parts of english both advanced and standard do the same question, but others are different so advanced scales better there.

 

[tris123]

of course they mark harder in advanced. hence ADVANCED not GENERAL. if they scaled the same why the fuck would anyone bother doing advanced

 

[Uncle]

I didn't give a shit about scaling.
All I got was a range of 12 to 16 out of 20 by my Year 12 Half-Yearlies and then a range of 13 to 17 out of 20 by my Year 12 Trials and I scored a Band 5 in the English Standard HSC paper.
Rough approximates.
End of story.

 

[Lazarus]

The two courses are scaled exactly the same and have been since 2001.

The same raw mark in Standard and Advanced will become the same scaled mark.

There are plenty of threads about this.

Make sure you don't confuse 'scaling' for UAI/ATAR purposes with 'aligning' for Board of Studies purposes. They're scaled the same (so it makes no difference to your UAI/ATAR) but they're not aligned the same (so it can be harder to get into a particular band).

If you're only interested in your UAI/ATAR, there's nothing to worry about.

 

[annabackwards]

The two courses are scaled exactly the same and have been since 2001.

The same raw mark in Standard and Advanced will become the same scaled mark.

There are plenty of threads about this.

Make sure you don't confuse 'scaling' for UAI/ATAR purposes with 'aligning' for Board of Studies purposes. They're scaled the same (so it makes no difference to your UAI/ATAR) but they're not aligned the same (so it can be harder to get into a particular band).

If you're only interested in your UAI/ATAR, there's nothing to worry about.

QFT.

They scale the same, but it's much, much harder to get a high mark in standard when compared to advanced.

 

[shady145]

QFT.

They scale the same, but it's much, much harder to get a high mark in standard when compared to advanced.

yea i see only 73 people got band 6's last year in it

 

[shady145]

of course they mark harder in advanced. hence ADVANCED not GENERAL. if they scaled the same why the fuck would anyone bother doing advanced

okay calm down buddy
they scale the same

Make sure you don't confuse 'scaling' for UAI/ATAR purposes with 'aligning' for Board of Studies purposes. They're scaled the same (so it makes no difference to your UAI/ATAR) but they're not aligned the same (so it can be harder to get into a particular band).

so this aligning process is harder because? isit because of the common paper, obviously the majority in advanced will beat the majority in standard and so will align their marks better? if thats not right please explain

 

[annabackwards]

so this aligning process is harder because? isit because of the common paper, obviously the majority in advanced will beat the majority in standard and so will align their marks better? if thats not right please explain

Yes, that's basically it ^^

 

[Official]

yea i see only 73 people got band 6's last year in it

more like 3

 

[Fortify]

<1% of 32191 Standard English students received a Band 6.

Source:
http://www.uac.edu.au/documents/uai/2008_table_A2.pdf

 

[shady145]

more like 3

sorry mate, more like 73

 

[Fortify]

more like 3

If it was 3 then the % is 0.00009% which is highly unlikely.

 

[roci]

I don't neccessarily think that it's the matter of whether standard or advanced is marked harder or not. They're marked the same according to criteria. It's just the content is different and more difficult and extended.
Advanced isn't really hard at all. Just get 90 + In standard