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Smokey_22 said:
Tom Cooper's only 18 - he debuted in the sydney 1st grade final and made 50 against macgill and co.
Also averaged 100 in the under 17 champs, scoring an unbeaten 200 in the final.
Went to India with Aussie cricket team where he trained with them and even carried the drinks.


Also those who are bagging Hayden - he's already on a run-a-ball 50 in the tour game...
 

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Essex 502/4d
Australians 213/0 (32 ov)

Batsmen: R B 4s 6s S/R
JL Langer 87 95 15 1 91.58 not out
ML Hayden 121 100 16 5 121.00 not out

hmmmmm.....
 

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interesting. maybe haydos just has trouble with the english test bowlers :/
 

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A century in a warmup match... just like last test, what are the chances he'll fail at the oval. Haydon has always been a plunderer of average balling... but he was supposed to have taken a step up since that tour of india... looks like he's reverted to oldtimes though. they must be playing on the deadest pitch though....5 wickets for 700+ runs...

edit: and haydos got his 150 before lunch... off 118 balls
 

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y cant australia bat this well against england...srsly 561/6 after 95overs is really good...wat is wrong with us??
 

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seeing as though the aussies managed a run rate of about 1 greater than the county team, i dont think you can say they batted that well. put the game in its context...they are playing on a batsman paradise.
 

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Hodge made 166 at a run a ball just to keep the pressure on.

Gilchrist, once again, smacked a couple of boundaries and then got out. How typical of his 2005 Ashes.

Haddin batted very well for 59. Could he perhaps force his way in? If it were the second or third Test, then perhaps. Now it's probably too late.
 

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redruM said:
seeing as though the aussies managed a run rate of about 1 greater than the county team, i dont think you can say they batted that well. put the game in its context...they are playing on a batsman paradise.
yeh true...but come ours batters get centuries plus when they play against county teams but when the play against the poms they can barely get a half century in...like srsly how many centuries has aussie gotten this ashes tournament??
 

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Gilchrist, once again, smacked a couple of boundaries and then got out. How typical of his 2005 Ashes.

Haddin batted very well for 59. Could he perhaps force his way in? .
How could you question Gilchrist's place? He's still the better keeper by far. And yeah, he can still bat a bit.
 

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Haddin is the peoples player. But theyre both from NSW, so who cares.

And Essex has the best captain in the world, Ronnie Irani [who could captain his county in front of Nasser, but failed at international level], and Gorilla man Andre Nel [who is bowling like batshit according to the scorecard].
 

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Smokey_22 said:
How could you question Gilchrist's place? He's still the better keeper by far. And yeah, he can still bat a bit.
Yeah only a bit...haha

Australia will never make any big changes with respect to the team. They cannot drop Hayden now, Tait is out for McGrath, and perhaps MacGill will get his chance (never know with ACB...wait...Cricket Australia) for Kaspa. Martyn should be dropped, should have been a long time ago.
 

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Smokey_22 said:
How could you question Gilchrist's place? He's still the better keeper by far. And yeah, he can still bat a bit.
If this was say, the second Test, dropping a player such as Gilchrist or Hayden for the one match could have been just the spark the Australians needed.

Playing for the Australian team has clearly become something that the team take for granted nowadays.

I won't disagree that Gilly is by far the better 'keeper. He and Sangakkara are probably the only two in the world who can 'keep well to Shane Warne. Obviously the Sri Lankan outstrips Gilly in his ability to 'keep to Murali, but Gilchrist is a better batsman.

What is his batting average in this series, though? Seriously, it must be around about 20 or 25. He is the most talented batsman in the Australian side and he is failing miserably.

Perhaps we have just come to expect such high standards from the man that as soon as he lets us down, questions are raised.

However, his average of 56 has been instrumental in recent years in helping the tail wag, as it has done once again this series.

Hayden is out of form in the Test arena. Martyn and Gilchrist, though, have shown an uncanny ability to get their eye in but then get out cheaply. Both of them have not set up camp and batted for a whole session yet. This coming from two batsmen averaging over 50 in Test match cricket.

It's not as if batting against England is THAT hard. At least, it's not as hard as it's been made out to look. Evidence of this lies in the simple fact that Shane Warne and Brett Lee are both in the top three or four for Australian batting averages this series, and Glenn McGrath has managed to score about 30 runs without getting out once. Gillespie once again managed to stick around for at least 50 balls most innings, so batting couldn't have been much tougher for him than normally. Kasprowicz has been rock solid with the willow in his hands.

Why is this all happening? Because the batsmen from 8 through 11 are deciding to show some grit. They put their heads down, bums up, and try as hard as they can.

What has Gilchrist done in comparison? Ahhh, he was tied down for three balls by Ashley Giles, so he charged down the pitch and tried to smack him for six. Unfortunately, he mistimed it straight to mid-on.

If Gilchrist and Martyn decided that they would be there at the end of they session or at the end of the day, and then they played to this plan ... just on the back of this ALONE, Australia would have wrapped up the Ashes by now.
 
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tasha1188 said:
y cant australia bat this well against england...srsly 561/6 after 95overs is really good...wat is wrong with us??

because england have actually produced a solid, cohesive team that has a chance to bring australia to its knees.



that being said, i can't wait for the final ashes test. with the hope of australia winning, of course, it should be a great match :D
 
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