Today Tonight : Farmer Vs aboriginal Community Queensland ( rope around neck incident (2 Viewers)

[Slidey]

I personally don't watch it because all it does is highlight the unfairness of the world which makes me angry and depressed.

That can be said about TV in general (Which is why I don't watch it).

 

[malkin86]

A noose is very like a choke collar for your dog - the dog has to follow you whereever you go at a quick trot, or else the choke collar tightens, and it becomes difficult for them to breathe. Additionally, if the rope they used wasn't very slippery, it wouldn't loosen if the boy came closer.

They could have used other, less dangerous knots to restrain him, and not beaten him.

 

[mahuligan]

this is totally irrelevent to the issue, but the other day i was watching the news and they showed a bunch of environmentalists protesting about something regarding logging, and one of them was holding up an aboriginal flag?! wtf?!

 

[jm1234567890]

this is totally irrelevent to the issue, but the other day i was watching the news and they showed a bunch of environmentalists protesting about something regarding logging, and one of them was holding up an aboriginal flag?! wtf?!

your point?

 

[mahuligan]

your point?

its just getting annoying

 

[Aznpsycho]

They really need to solve the issue of crime and unemployment in the country towns, especially for aboriginal kids. The relationship between poverty and crime is fairly straightforward, and the best way to reduce this sort of insanity is get better employment back. The way the Tomkins 'restrained' the kid was rather stupid, as if the kid died or got a serious injury, they would have been completely screwed, regardless of whether the kid robbed them or not. After all, you have no right to kill a burglar in your house unless he was actually attacking you (then it would be manslaughter).

That said, the media love to blow things out of proportion (case in point: Schiavo). They will happily do this here. The job of the media is not to tell the truth, it is to make money. Simple as that - that is how it works. If you do not make money, you don't get to make up more fancy jingles, you get even less people watching, and you make even less until your company dies. The solution? Sensationalise your stories, making people read them, and making you money.

 

[jm1234567890]

I don't think the problem is poverty. I think it is education.

They do this because they got think better to do. If they had good books to read or things to occupy their time, why would they do this?

 

[MoonlightSonata]

Employment and education - not to mention housing, welfare, health care, etc.

 

[Sweets]

I agree I think education is the most important thing in breaking the cycle of poverty of Aboriginals. However even so most Aboriginal kids come from disadvantaged families and this environment isn't ver conducive to learning. They are very often malnourished which leads to short attention spans etc. Alot of Aboriginal people work in seasonal labour and they are moving around alot as a result so their kids can't stay in one school. So really its al interelated.

I think what he did was totally wrong though. I mean I can understand him wanting to hold him and rightly so but he probably didn't need to be so extreme with it. And the fact that he said he would do it to a white boy too doesn't justify it in my mind. Just because u apply your weird reasoning to everyone doesn't make it right.

 

[loquasagacious]

Race WTF?

They put a noose around his neck and beat him with a stick!!! Who gives a fuck whether he was black, are you people so morally corrupt that you think it is acceptable to tie a noose around someones neck and beat them with a stick???

We have a JUSTICE system for a reason to meet out JUST and APPROPRIATE punishment for crimes. In other words to do what a VIGILANTE system can NOT do.

 

[withoutaface]

I don't think the problem is poverty. I think it is education.

They do this because they got think better to do. If they had good books to read or things to occupy their time, why would they do this?

The problem is that they go walkabout so much that the schools in the bush are lucky to have 50% attendance 50% of the time.

 

[Sweets]

Well sometimes they don't even have access to schools in the bush with having to go along way so maybe that might explain thier absence.

 

[loquasagacious]

So the farmhands suffered from poverty, a lack of education and a lack of non-vigilante things to do?

 

[withoutaface]

I find it hard to believe that people cannot draw the racial implications from putting a noose around an aboriginal persons neck.

Oh please, there's been plenty of cases where people have beaten the living shit out of white intruders on their property.

 

[Xayma]

Unless you cant get evidence where he has not done the same to those of decent other than Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander when they intruded I fail to see how you can logically draw the racial implications.

 

[Sweets]

Well considering the Aboriginal people are the most downtrodden social group in Australia and have been subject to much racism in the past, it is inevitable that racial implications will be drawn. Plus the fact that his family claim he was called racist names adds to this fact. So if that is true there can deffinetly be seen to be a racist element to how he was treated.

 

[withoutaface]

If it wasn't racist names for being Aboriginal it would simply have been cunt, fuckwit, etc

 

[Serius]

as much as i agree with being able to protect your own property,

this situation makes me sick to my stomach

why the hell did they beat him? why did they tie a noose around his neck. a fucking NOOSE! used to hang people! that would have traumatised the poor kid heaps bad. simply, in an anarchist world, taking justice into your own hands is acceptable, but we live in a democratic country, people cant start taking the law into their own hands [ detaining him on the other hand would be acceptable to me] we have police, we have courts and a legal system, i pay taxes for this shit to operate! i dont want to see my money going to waste

in conclusion, no more taking the law into your own hands whilst iam a tax payer

 

[Serius]

exactly, i didnt raise the issue of lynching because i wanted my post to not be about race but more about the events, but that is exactly right. a noose around a black mans neck would scare the shit out of him... just look at America in the 1950s... scary shit
and i bet the farmers knew what the noose implied aswell. still i would prefer it not to be made into a racial issue, it would have been just as bad if it happened to a white person

 

[v sia]

Man this is blowing totally out of proportion .

First of all , the kid wasnt beaten up and there was no gun pointed to his head . Secondly so bloody what if the Farmer's swore at the kid , do you expect him to say " hi its you again , please enter my truck so i can take you to the police " come on .

If for instance a white kid stole from an Aboriginal's Farm and the Aboriginal shot the white kid in the leg , i guarantee you that no 1 will implicate abuse related to his racial background.

Also i agree with you that yes the media will and always blow stories out or proportion just to make a buck , in this case Today Tonight seemed to be on the Aboriginal's side .