UNSW Scholarship (2 Viewers)

[Aquawhite]

i got a 'high achiever award'..is it the same as this thing?

I have no idea what that is - is it a scholarship?

 

[bitumen]

I have no idea what that is - is it a scholarship?

haha i'm not sure actually. it basically says CONGRATS WE'RE GIVING YOU $5000. i didn't even apply..?
i'm just wondering whether these unsw awards/scholarships/whatever are a big deal or not.

 

[Aquawhite]

haha i'm not sure actually. it basically says CONGRATS WE'RE GIVING YOU $5000. i didn't even apply..?
i'm just wondering whether these unsw awards/scholarships/whatever are a big deal or not.

That's odd, I got given the AAA scholarship randomly at the awards night but I'm going up to Griffith (hoping for the Sir Samuel Griffith scholarship worth $15600 over 3 years).

 

[Omnipotence]

i got a 'high achiever award'..is it the same as this thing?

I've never heard of it.

 

[Trans4M]

^ too late the deadline was like 31 oct

IMHO that award is rigged like a kid who got 99.55 through hard work cannot be equated with a kid who got 94.55 and a $4000 bonus lol

i kinda a agree with this too. A kid who puts in lot of effort and goes to like a competitive selective school who achieves an atar of 99.55 cannot be compared to someone who goes to a less competitive school, is awarded with AAA and received 94.55. Kinda sad like what happened at my school I believe. I think the person that got nominated ended up getting 99.9 or close to it and ended up not applying for UNSW lol

other people wished they went to just a normal high school so they had a higher chance to get into their desired course. Not to mention 4k...

 

[dannyiraqi]

i kinda a agree with this too. A kid who puts in lot of effort and goes to like a competitive selective school who achieves an atar of 99.55 cannot be compared to someone who goes to a less competitive school, is awarded with AAA and received 94.55. Kinda sad like what happened at my school I believe. I think the person that got nominated ended up getting 99.9 or close to it and ended up not applying for UNSW lol

other people wished they went to just a normal high school so they had a higher chance to get into their desired course. Not to mention 4k...

This is kinda true, although you gotta remember that it is like twice as hard to achieve a 99 ATAR at a normal high school than at a selective one... All the high achievers in selective schools scale eachother up, while at a normal school, there are sometimes 2 or 3 students who give it their all, while the rest take it easy, making it much harder to learn and to achieve a really high ATAR... But saying this, i know someone who got 81 ATAR and got this scholarship which is really unfair lol...

 

[jaychouf4n]

This is kinda true, although you gotta remember that it is like twice as hard to achieve a 99 ATAR at a normal high school than at a selective one... All the high achievers in selective schools scale eachother up, while at a normal school, there are sometimes 2 or 3 students who give it their all, while the rest take it easy, making it much harder to learn and to achieve a really high ATAR... But saying this, i know someone who got 81 ATAR and got this scholarship which is really unfair lol...

Even taking this into account, I think that the +5 points is far too high. There is a HUGE difference between 94.55 and 99.55. Marks-wise 99.55 means you need to score 95's for all of your 10 units. For 94.55 you can get away with scoring 86s. IMHO, I think that the no. of bonus points should be reduced to +2.

 

[Omnipotence]

Maybe UNSW gives school leavers +5 points to compensate for not giving them an extended scholarship such as USyd (6k p.a.), UWS (5k p.a.) and etc.

 

[Aquawhite]

Maybe UNSW gives school leavers +5 points to compensate for not giving them an extended scholarship such as USyd (6k p.a.), UWS (5k p.a.) and etc.

I find it perculiar that UNSW does not have a similar scholarship open to anyone like this... I know UNSW has a plethora of other small and large scholarships and cadetships which are faculty specific and open for different reasons (such as indigenous, rural, academia... etc). I think bonus points is a good scheme, but giving 5 can sometimes be excessive.

 

[erespall]

hmmm without the scholarship will acedemic acheivements be considered if your just outside certain cuttoffs? e.g. school leadership, honour roll, dux etc.

 

[slyhunter]

hmmm without the scholarship will acedemic acheivements be considered if your just outside certain cuttoffs? e.g. school leadership, honour roll, dux etc.

Probably no.

 

[gesh17]

This is kinda true, although you gotta remember that it is like twice as hard ... All the high achievers in selective schools scale eachother up, while at a normal school, there are sometimes 2 or 3 students who give it their all, while the rest take it easy, making it much harder to learn and to achieve a really high ATAR...

I disagree completely.

I had the option of attending a selective school ranked inside the top ten before the start of year 11 but decided to stay on at my current school - ranked about 350 as I found the learning environment quite personalised for an individual such as myself. I was aiming for 99.05 and cleared that somewhat comfortably - ergo it is not "twice as hard to achieve a 99 ATAR at a normal high school than at a selective one."

In our year of 25 students odd, nearly everyone gave it their all and about 6 or 7 got above 90 and 3-4 in the around 95-99 and our school jumped about 90 places in terms of rank this year. So yeah, attending a normal school is not a disadvantage unless you over-think and make it one.

 

[Aquawhite]

I disagree completely.

I had the option of attending a selective school ranked inside the top ten before the start of year 11 but decided to stay on at my current school - ranked about 350 as I found the learning environment quite personalised for an individual such as myself. I was aiming for 99.05 and cleared that somewhat comfortably - ergo it is not "twice as hard to achieve a 99 ATAR at a normal high school than at a selective one."

In our year of 25 students odd, nearly everyone gave it their all and about 6 or 7 got above 90 and 3-4 in the around 95-99 and our school jumped about 90 places in terms of rank this year. So yeah, attending a normal school is not a disadvantage unless you over-think and make it one.

What school do you attend? It seems rather small.

 

[twistedrebel]

I disagree completely.

I had the option of attending a selective school ranked inside the top ten before the start of year 11 but decided to stay on at my current school - ranked about 350 as I found the learning environment quite personalised for an individual such as myself. I was aiming for 99.05 and cleared that somewhat comfortably - ergo it is not "twice as hard to achieve a 99 ATAR at a normal high school than at a selective one."

In our year of 25 students odd, nearly everyone gave it their all and about 6 or 7 got above 90 and 3-4 in the around 95-99 and our school jumped about 90 places in terms of rank this year. So yeah, attending a normal school is not a disadvantage unless you over-think and make it one.

from your sig it seems your from the northern beaches. You havent seen HS's in the west, southwest.

 

[FreeWorld]

''So yeah, attending a normal school is not a disadvantage unless you over-think and make it one''.

cocky rich arrogant ass.

 

[erespall]

^think blacktown/western regions....

 

[gesh17]

What school do you attend? It seems rather small.

I'd rather not say but in the Northern Beaches Area and yeah, we usually don't get more than 30 students in Year 12 but this year, I think we've got like 60 odd.

from your sig it seems your from the northern beaches. You havent seen HS's in the west, southwest.

Yeah, I understand - 99.20 is by no means a very high score and there are several others on BOS itself that have topped that. But the only thing I was arguing was that 99 is not very difficult to achieve just because you attend a very low-ranked school.

''So yeah, attending a normal school is not a disadvantage unless you over-think and make it one''.

cocky rich arrogant ass.

I'm sorry you feel that way. I was just giving an opinion/rant and trying to convince people that a 300+ school can still get you 99+.

 

[dannyiraqi]

gesh17... i understand where you are coming from but as other people are saying... try schools in the west... no matter how much you try and persuade others to do well and study hard, people simply dont try at all, and this is what pulls u down scaling wise! Your school must have hard working students, and it is with results like that which help u receive that 99... Not all high schools are like yours mate

 

[Shadowdude]

^ That is completely wrong.

I was one of the very few people at my school who did try hard and I got a good ATAR to show for it even though I was out for two months during the HSC period. One of my classmates got 98.35. I'd conjecture out of the 30 people in my year, only three got higher than 85.

You are also getting scaling and aligning wrong. Aligning affects only the top school moderated assessment mark. If just ONE person at your school gets 100 in the exam aligned, regardless of rank, then the top school assessment mark is 100 and everyone is pushed up. Fact is, if you are in the top echelons of your class - it is your duty to do well to maximise that rank, and thus pull everyone else up as a corollary. So you don't need a group of hardworking students, in reality - you can do fine with just one to push everyone up.

Scaling affects only your own marks. Now if the classmates of yours are so distracting then I can see that would be a problem.

 

[gesh17]

gesh17... i understand where you are coming from but as other people are saying... try schools in the west... no matter how much you try and persuade others to do well and study hard, people simply dont try at all, and this is what pulls u down scaling wise! Your school must have hard working students, and it is with results like that which help u receive that 99... Not all high schools are like yours mate

Well, I topped all my classes internally and externally so in the end, I didn't rely on anyone but myself but I understand what you're saying.

^ That is completely wrong.

I was one of the very few people at my school who did try hard and I got a good ATAR to show for it even though I was out for two months during the HSC period. One of my classmates got 98.35. I'd conjecture out of the 30 people in my year, only three got higher than 85.

You are also getting scaling and aligning wrong. Aligning affects only the top school moderated assessment mark. If just ONE person at your school gets 100 in the exam aligned, regardless of rank, then the top school assessment mark is 100 and everyone is pushed up. Fact is, if you are in the top echelons of your class - it is your duty to do well to maximise that rank, and thus pull everyone else up as a corollary. So you don't need a group of hardworking students, in reality - you can do fine with just one to push everyone up.

Scaling affects only your own marks. Now if the classmates of yours are so distracting then I can see that would be a problem.

Thanks man.