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Ok so I was just wondering which uni is better for commerce. Also I got an atar of 93.6, would that be enough to get into usyd commerce since the usyd site says 95 and there are no bonus points.
 

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You would make it to UNSW Commerce if you have the bonus points for it. USYD does not offer subject bonus points for Commerce.
 
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I've got guaranteed entry for commerce at unsw but I was just wondering if usyd let's people who are under 95 in and also whether usyd is better or not for commerce.

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I've got guaranteed entry for commerce at unsw but I was just wondering if usyd let's people who are under 95 in and also whether usyd is better or not for commerce.

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Both universities have excellent overall commerce faculties which are on-par with one-another, so for the most part, getting into either of them doesn't put you at a disadvantage as opposed to getting into the other. (Disregarding factors like travel, friends/connections, et cetera.)
 

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Ok so I was just wondering which uni is better for commerce. Also I got an atar of 93.6, would that be enough to get into usyd commerce since the usyd site says 95 and there are no bonus points.
They are both the same. Although, usyd has more placement opportunities for non-coop people (where as unsw its just for coop students - which I'm assuming you're not). Usyd comm also doesn't have bonus points.

You can be equally shit in both universities and end up with 0 graduate jobs or do extremely well and have your pick of the best jobs out there.
 

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Although, usyd has more placement opportunities for non-coop people (where as unsw its just for coop students - which I'm assuming you're not).
What does that mean? What are these placement opportunities?
 

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I share this dilemma too :(
From my point of view, choosing between the two universities on B. Commerce should not be based on academic or reputative reasons (since they're similar in those regards)... except economics and econometrics. The B. Commerce at UNSW allows you to major in business economics and/or financial economics, whereas at USYD you're allowed to major in economics and/or econometrics.

If the above doesn't matter to you, then make your decision based on aspects such as convenience, friends and your expectation of your experience at the university.
 
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Employees won't give an advantage if you go to UNSW rather than USYD, vice versa. But my personal preference would be USYD Commerce based on its single degree. (USYD has outstanding international rep) I am JUST judging by both single degrees alone. I will try not to be bias as I have no preference over one uni than the other.

USYD and USYD has a different number of core majors available, for example, USYD offers Econometrics when UNSW doesn't and UNSW offers Taxation when USYD doesn't.

Please also take account of travel time.

USYD has an IPP. http://sydney.edu.au/business/study/opportunities/industry_placement_program
UNSW has an IPP only for Co-op Students.

USYD has awesome ivy league exchanges, but the same with UNSW.

And by the way, the rankings don't matter, they're for Post-Grad.

In the end, it's your choice, but it doesn't really matter which one you end up to.
 
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I am planning on doing commerce /arts. Is unsw an ideal place to do that degree?

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Employees won't give an advantage if you go to UNSW rather than USYD, vice versa. But my personal preference would be USYD Commerce based on its single degree. (USYD has outstanding international rep) I am JUST judging by both single degrees alone. I will try not to be bias as I have no preference over one uni than the other.

USYD and USYD has a different number of core majors available, for example, USYD offers Econometrics when UNSW doesn't and UNSW offers Taxation when USYD doesn't.

Please also take account of travel time.

USYD has an IPP. http://sydney.edu.au/business/study/opportunities/industry_placement_program
UNSW has an IPP only for Co-op Students.

USYD has awesome ivy league exchanges, but the same with UNSW.

And by the way, the rankings don't matter, they're for Post-Grad.

In the end, it's your choice, but it doesn't really matter which one you end up to.
Those reasons don't support USYD Commerce though. They support USYD, but not the degree itself. IPP is down to the individual, exchanges are based on the School or University, rankings are based on the School and University, travel time is based on the University. The only thing that might support degree is if you want to do Econometrics (that specific name of the major), which is equivalent to UNSW's Finance Economics major - or if you do an Economics degree, it's one if its majors.

They are certainly fair reasons to go to USYD, but saying they are pros of USYD 'Commerce' is disingenuous. UNSW has exchange opportunities with Wharton. The Co-op program isn't just for industry placements - it's a professional development program and scholarship, which has been running for over 25 years. Granted, at this stage, it's not much of a factor.

There are no bad choices here, but do make informed choices. You can go through an entire degree without any of those factors affecting you.
 

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Both are great unis. Look at majors, location, links to industry, exchange opportunities.
 
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So unsw commerce coop allows for students to go into internships overseas or local at businesses related to their degree, or am I understanding this wrong? Also does that mean just doing commerce (not coop) doesn't allow for the opportunity of going overseas and doing an internship?

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So unsw commerce coop allows for students to go into internships overseas or local at businesses related to their degree, or am I understanding this wrong? Also does that mean just doing commerce (not coop) doesn't allow for the opportunity of going overseas and doing an internship?

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Co-op is basically a private sponsored degree where businesses sponsor the students while completing industry placements in that business for a time period. This offers work experience for the students. Usually, if the students are perfoming at a high standard, they are hired by the business. There are limited places for Co-op, and Honours/Co-op are in the same level and are highly sought when recruiting.

Any course allows you to go overseas. It's just USYD has specialised exchange opportunities.
 

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Those reasons don't support USYD Commerce though. They support USYD, but not the degree itself. IPP is down to the individual, exchanges are based on the School or University, rankings are based on the School and University, travel time is based on the University. The only thing that might support degree is if you want to do Econometrics (that specific name of the major), which is equivalent to UNSW's Finance Economics major - or if you do an Economics degree, it's one if its majors.

They are certainly fair reasons to go to USYD, but saying they are pros of USYD 'Commerce' is disingenuous. UNSW has exchange opportunities with Wharton. The Co-op program isn't just for industry placements - it's a professional development program and scholarship, which has been running for over 25 years. Granted, at this stage, it's not much of a factor.

There are no bad choices here, but do make informed choices. You can go through an entire degree without any of those factors affecting you.
I agree. All in all, it doesn't matter which university you end up going, you can complete an entire degree without any of these factors affecting you.
 

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