What are these courses? (2 Viewers)

[ballerinabarbie]

Originally posted by Wohzazz

So my impression now is that double degrees are only for those who intend to be flexible, or wants a profession that stands a line between two fields(like the legal consultant for a company given as an example). If you totally want to dedicate to one field, the other is degree is useless right?

kinda... although studies do show that a large percentage (i can't remember what the exact figure is) of people who have a uni degree don't actually end up working in that field... eg. my dad had an engineering degree and he ended up being a manager for Bank of America... other people in the bank had degrees ranging from science to arts etc...

 

[SoCal]

Originally posted by ballerinabarbie
kinda... although studies do show that a large percentage (i can't remember what the exact figure is) of people who have a uni degree don't actually end up working in that field... eg. my dad had an engineering degree and he ended up being a manager for Bank of America... other people in the bank had degrees ranging from science to arts etc...

I have heard about this too. When you apply for a job the company just wants to make sure you have a degree, it doesn't matter so much what degree you have. This is because University really just teaches you how to research topics, analyse them and understand them and then be able to talk and write about the topic later and that is what the company requires you to do.

 

[Lexicographer]

Yes, but this is even more true for school. It is not the knowledge you "gain" in school that matters (eg Maths) but the social and academic skills you learn. Similarly, university courses demand certain skills in academic practice, research procedure and presentation of information. In any profession these are important skills to have, making university a vital component of one's learning background when applying for anything more difficult than flipping burgers.

 

[honky tonk]

Originally posted by Wohzazz
I guess the mid 99s requirements for these double degrees arises because of the law degree.

I'm doing a double degree of Science and Law and my UAI was in the low 90's. It's all about the University you go to.

 

[Wohzazz]

Originally posted by honky tonk
I'm doing a double degree of Science and Law and my UAI was in the low 90's. It's all about the University you go to.

That is what i don't get. How much worse can a university get in terms of the identical degrees. Is it like a selective school to public school comparison. Or is essentially, the same stuff is learnt, except you get more recognised because the university you graduated is famous (like Harvard and all the crap you hear how their graduates must be smart)

 

[rukawasan]

i think its more like a selective/public school realtionships... the comb law program in diff uni's are mostly identical... its the quality of the candidature that separates them... usyd obviously has a higher candidature than unsw... n unsw higher than uts... n so on... so logically the higher institution would produce the better graduates... however that said... that is only int theory... cos uni education is very diff to high school education... n alot of the higher achievers in hsc are route learners... that is... they only learn well when told exactly wot direction to go... and also... alot of the higher achievers ride on the back of their 4u maths/phys/chem which aint gona help unless ur doing science/law... n only have a mediocre eng mark (well not low... but not high either)... so how well anybody does in uni depends on him/herself and nothing else... cos if ur cut out for law... ur cut out for law... however... just like higher school the overall generalisation that the institutions with the higher cutoff "generally" produce better graduates cos they have proven themselves to be capable...

this is wholly unbiased...

 

[SoCal]

Well more people live in Sydney, so there is a greater demand for positions at University and hence higher UAI cut-offs at Sydney Universities. Also, even people who don't live in Sydney will be attracted to Sydney Universities because they think they have better job prospects if they graduate from a Sydney University for some reason.

P.S. I want to go to HARVARD University!

 

[Wohzazz]

Is harvard like the best in America? Don't they have a reputation for law?
Any chance you can go to harvard from uni? I heard so ppl in high schools do gain entry to overseas uni (only for the few elites)

 

[rukawasan]

harvard is one of the best law schools in america... but the best law school in the world is NYU(New York)... if u wanna go harvard think bt doing postgrad there on a fulbright scholarship... otherwise its gona cost u a fortune...

 

[SoCal]

Originally posted by Wohzazz
Is harvard like the best in America? Don't they have a reputation for law?
Any chance you can go to harvard from uni? I heard so ppl in high schools do gain entry to overseas uni (only for the few elites)

Harvard Law School does have a great reputation. I just want to live in America, that is why I want to go to Harvard University. Any American University would be great to attend (especially on the West Coast of America: ULCA!). I might try to apply for a student visa or something so I can study there for a semester or two while at University.

 

[SoCal]

Originally posted by rukawasan
harvard is one of the best law schools in america... but the best law school in the world is NYU(New York)... if u wanna go harvard think bt doing postgrad there on a fulbright scholarship... otherwise its gona cost u a fortune...

How do you get the scholarship? Also, do you think that if I am studying in America, I have a better chance of being granted American Citizenship?

 

[rukawasan]

fulbright scholarship is for postgrad students to ivy league schools, of which harvard is a member... its judged i think on grounds of academic excellence, sporting achievement, leadership quality, and community service... lol... its alot... but ppl do make it...

of cos... however u bcome an american citizen u cant just simply b a student... u gota finish ur masters or phd then find an employer who will vouch for you... in which case for receive a work visa... then in time... u'll get ur green card...

 

[SoCal]

I have no chance of getting the scholarship then. I think I will just apply for a long visa and see how it goes.

 

[Wohzazz]

what's the green card you are referring to rukawasan?

 

[SoCal]

Originally posted by Wohzazz
what's the green card you are referring to rukawasan?

American Citizenship.

 

[Wohzazz]

Why do you want to become an American citizenship? Australia better in terms of lower crimes rates, population density and better weather conditions (no natural disasters)

 

[rukawasan]

depends on the lifestyle u want... u want the true big city/big apple lifestyle... most amerian cities are pretty good... if u want the laid back/comfort lifestyle... where shops close at 4... aus better...

 

[SoCal]

Originally posted by Wohzazz
Why do you want to become an American citizenship? Australia better in terms of lower crimes rates, population density and better weather conditions (no natural disasters)

Well I have wanted to live in Los Angeles all my life. Something just draws me there. I want to see California, it just seems like a great lace to live. It is the capital of entertainment which I am really interested in too (I want to be an actor).

 

[iambored]

ohhh give us your signature so we can say we chatted to you before you became rich and famous and forgot all about us

 

[SoCal]

Originally posted by iambored
ohhh give us your signature so we can say we chatted to you before you became rich and famous and forgot all about us

Yeah, you should see how many people say things like that and give me a hard time about wanting to be an actor too!