Which is the best uni for business/commerce/economics? (2 Viewers)

[Slush Puppy]

Which Uni is best for Commerce?

Got kinda confused with the UTS, USYD & UNSW all trying to jazz up their commerce degrees, so i need an honest opinion (hopefully someone that is studying the course) on which uni offers the most to students in terms of career opportunities and course outline


thnx =)

 

[fillstar]

UNSW?

They're very strong in that area plus theres high demand judging from the 02' cutoffs.

 

[Minai]

probably
but high-cutoffs doesnt necessarily mean its the best for that particular degree, its usually just student demand

 

[Slush Puppy]

i keep hearing that UNSW specialises in techo subjects whereas Sydney aces traditional subjects...weird

anyone like to clarify this myth?

 

[Sarah]

just wondering which is the best uni to do a business, commerce or economics degree?

 

[Minai]

I believe Macquarie uni is highly reputable for its Commerce/Economics faculty (the best for Actuary)

UNSW and USyd are about the same, but im not sure about this, I'm trying to find out myself

I suggest u go to ur local library or the state library and read the Good Universities Guide 2003, which basically rates each uni for different courses. U might get a clearer picture

 

[Sarah]

hey minai, if u find out could about which is the best between unsw and syd uni could u post it up?

Have gone to local library to look for the good uni's guide but they didn't have it.

 

[Minai]

Well I had a brief read today, and for Business and Management, UNSW had it better overall, in terms of educational experience, teaching quality, percentage of graduates still seeking work and starting salaries compared. Next best was Macquarie and then Sydney (out of those 3, i didnt look at any other Uni's). For Accounting it was much the same. I'll go back today if it isnt closed and post the actual data.

 

[user]

ug the good university guide rankings are so depressing....

i'd list examples but i leant the book to someone

nsw allows you to be more specific with your majors while sydney is a more generalised course. in sydney everyone has to do certian subjects (econometrics etc...)

therefore, nsw is better for those who already know what they want to do, while sydney is better for those who don't know what they want to do, but know that they want to work in that general subject area.

in terms if academic thingys, i think they're about the same.

 

[timmii]

I've heard that USyd is making massive efforts to upgrade their commerce courses, particularly in finance and accounting.

That could however just be part of my attempt to justify my desire to go to usyd for comm/law despite being given a multitude of reasons to go to unsw. *sigh*

I did however call an acquaintace who does merchant banking at macquarie after graduating 2yrs ago from usyd (my desired occupation, course and uni). She said the workforce used to be dominated by unsw graduates, but at macquarie atm, its 50:50 unsw:usyd. Also her sister, who is also doing commerce at usyd is doing heaps of new practical financial modelling courses etc, which weren't there when she was....they are definitely trying to improve.

 

[Sazzy]

can u do accounting with a B Economics? Cos i want to do accounting, but i only got 93 which leaves me with
- B Business at UTS
- B Economics at UNSW
or B Commerce at Sydney (but i'm not sure if i could get into this course because last yr's cut-of was 93, and my UAI is 93!! Someone answer this too!)
I don't know which uni is better!

 

[Minai]

Yes u can do Accounting as a major with the BEc @ UNSW
PM Bambul, I think he's doing that exact same thing right now.

 

[flyin']

altho im going to go to macq for com/sci ... i would definitely say that (1) unsw (2) usyd in terms of commerce/bus/eco courses ...

 

[Minai]

Originally posted by flyin'
altho im going to go to macq for com/sci ... i would definitely say that (1) unsw (2) usyd in terms of commerce/bus/eco courses ...

i thought u wanted to do actuary at macq ?
or is it commerce (actuary)/science ?

 

[flyin']

Originally posted by MinAi


i thought u wanted to do actuary at macq ?
or is it commerce (actuary)/science ?

its acturial studies at macquarie ... commerce (acturial studies) / science (mathematics) ...

but i still have to say that if you arent doing acturial ... unsw is recommended above the other unis in new south wales imo ... for commerce courses that is ...

 

[Ultimate]

Originally posted by flyin'


its acturial studies at macquarie ... commerce (acturial studies) / science (mathematics) ...

but i still have to say that if you arent doing acturial ... unsw is recommended above the other unis in new south wales imo ... for commerce courses that is ...

I reckon majoring in actuarial studies at UNSW under commerce is just as good as macquarie. Plus they have an advanced science program which is also good (lots of major choices).

 

[schwang_thang]

cud sum1 plz tell me how UTS (business) rates among all these other uni's?

i heard it was a gud uni 4 biz (better than syd) but since it hasnt even rated a mention in this thread, im beginning 2 doubt the truth 2 this...

 

[Bambul]

Originally posted by MinAi
Yes u can do Accounting as a major with the BEc @ UNSW
PM Bambul, I think he's doing that exact same thing right now.

Ahhh, so thats why I got a message from Sazzy!

About Advanced Science: I don't think you can do it with Actuarial Studies, not officially anyway. My friend is doing Commerce(Actuarial Studies)/Science(Mathematics) and has been told that he can only do vanilla science, not advanced.

So he is overloading like crazy (he has done the equivalent of 1.3125 years worth in his first year) to try to finish his double degree 1 year early and then do all the subjects that he would have done in advanced science, then say "look, I've done everything I need to get an advanced science degree, just give me the qualification!"

If you want, you can message me and I'll pass on his email onto you so you can ask him some questions yourself if you want.

 

[Minai]

The following information was taken from The Good Universities Guide 2003 - www.thegoodguides.com.au

Accounting

Macquarie
Teaching Quality: average
Generic Skills: worse
Overall satisfaction: average
Seeking work: 6%
Success compared: average
Starting Salaries: $37095
Salaries Compared: Better

Sydney
Teaching Quality: average
Generic Skills: average
Overall satisfaction: worse
Seeking work: 6%
Success compared: average
Starting Salaries: $34831
Salaries Compared: average

UNSW
Teaching Quality: worse
Generic Skills: average
Overall satisfaction: average
Seeking work: 4%
Success compared: average
Starting Salaries: $34879
Salaries Compared: average

Business and Managment

Macquarie
Teaching Quality: worse
Generic Skills: worse
Overall satisfaction: average
Seeking work: 6%
Success compared: better
Starting Salaries: $39203
Salaries Compared: Better

Sydney
Teaching Quality: average
Generic Skills: worse
Overall satisfaction: worse
Seeking work: 9%
Success compared: better
Starting Salaries: $36958
Salaries Compared: average

UNSW
Teaching Quality: worse
Generic Skills: average
Overall satisfaction: average
Seeking work: 5%
Success compared: better
Starting Salaries: $42783
Salaries Compared: better

Economics

Macquarie
Teaching Quality: average
Generic Skills: average
Overall satisfaction: better
Seeking work: 18%
Success compared: average
Starting Salaries: $37381
Salaries Compared: average

Sydney
Teaching Quality: worse
Generic Skills: worse
Overall satisfaction: worse
Seeking work: 13%
Success compared: average
Starting Salaries: $37795
Salaries Compared: average

UNSW
Teaching Quality: worse
Generic Skills: worse
Overall satisfaction: worse
Seeking work: 20%
Success compared: worse
Starting Salaries: unknown
Salaries Compared: worse

 

[schwang_thang]

omgosh tnx minai, id been lookin 4 that site!