who do you like beezly or howard (1 Viewer)

[Not-That-Bright]

While i think they're smart enough people they're influenced by different things just like anyone else.
ie, accademics support unions... one of my lecturers was talking about how you can't listen to any of the papers because they're a business too, they don't like the unions either. And while i agreed with that and thought it was true, in the back of my head i was thinking "Like accademics that gain from unions, and therefor push for unions to remain strong".

Then again, already some of my thoughts have been challenged, and it's great. I like being able to think about issues instead of just have to research and diseminate things for myself, be able to ask someone questions about what they have found.

 

[frog12986]

All I can say is, if their research yielded such fantastic results which explained how to change the world, as they most academics say it does, then why haven't their ideas been implemented and/or changed the world....

Not-that-Bright summed it up perfectly when he stated that thier academic arrogance often takes over and they believe proceed to believe they are experts on everything...and obviously correct for that matter... particularly sociologists...psychologists etc

 

[Not-That-Bright]

I have to agree.
Kim is also strong on defence, unlike latham I would trust him to protect our country.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

I can't think of a society where academics have really been able to control social trends & policy...
Perhaps only in "brave new world" and the like..

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Yes but that is because the society wants these laws.
It is not like academics have been able to force people to accept ideals etc.

 

[frog12986]

Im talking about the 'majority' of academic findings here.. those that are implemented are very minimal... and no im not living under a rock...

 

[neo o]

I hate academics. I hate intellectualism. Down with intellectualism.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

THINK HARDER!!!!!!!!!!!

please for the sake of UWS law.

Ok i'll admit i realised i was wrong the first time u said it and i felt really stupid

 

[frog12986]

for example, if sociological findings that external factors are a major determinant of individual behaviour are so correct, then why haven't we as a society focused more heavily upon the stablilty of social structure, to prevent detrimental behaviours from occurring. On the other hand psychologists say it is purely individual and the workings of ones mind produce certain behaviours... i.e. behaviour at maquarie fields...

Here are two totally contrasiting academic opinions which haven't actually solved the problem. They've identified issues for sure, however have not been proactive in developing ways to solve them....and if they have the solutions aren't implemented on a large enough scale to affect society as a whole... Now your doing law asquinthian so I won't win the argument but at least you know part of my point...


I didnt say we shouldnt have them, nor did I say I knew more... I was merely stating that they have minimal life/practical experience which is often more beneficial than intellectualism....

BTW im primarily talking about academics in scoial sciences/literature....


And that is a huge problem... we have too many full time career politicians who have never worked a day in their life....

 

[Not-That-Bright]

He mights be a 3rd year law student, and it seems a good one, but he also likes ashley simpson (for her singing) and thus is dumb.

 

[frog12986]

Asquinthian, my point is not that there shouldn't be conflicting arguements in our society, but its the fact that academics believe they know how to solve all the ills of the world, yet do not actually achieve what they believe they can do... im all for mulitple opinions, thats the brilliance of a democracy... but they do not actually prove what they've conculded actually works....nor does their exist any proof in society...

 

[Generator]

im all for mulitple opinions, thats the brilliance of a democracy... but they do not actually prove what they've conculded actually works....nor does their exist any proof in society...

Part of the value in such opinions and studies is that they too spawn different opinions and so on and so forth... An idea does not have to be 'practical' in order for it to be worthwhile.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

What's with this poll? a bunch of new howard supporters joined the forums or do the lefties of this forum possibly hate kim?

 

[Generator]

Kim represents federal Labor's best hope (i.e., become more like the Coalition). The funny thing is is that it is the party rather than the leader that should matter, yet that doesn't seem to be an issue for many.

Edit: Or it could just be the spelling.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Well with mark latham the party was restructured ya kno...

 

[Generator]

Well with mark latham the party was restructured ya kno...

It was under Crean (unless something else happened that I'm missing?).

 

[mossup]

i dont like either of them.

they are both leaches.

ditto..............

 

[Not-That-Bright]

tattoodguy, why don't u start up your rapist party and shut up.

 

[shady_03]

considering that ill NEVER EVER IN A TRILLION BILLION YEARS vote for Howard, Beazleys the man. But i still think Latham was the best

 

[breaking]

ill NEVER EVER IN A TRILLION BILLION YEARS vote for Howard

why????