Would you do a PHD for medicine? (2 Viewers)

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Lol why r u so irritated at ppl wanting to do medicine?

Let people aspire to do what they want lol, there is no logical reason apart from not wanting competition that u would be irritated or upset by heaps of people wanting to do it
I couldnt care less about the competition tbh, what irritates me is the fact intellectual peasants think they are worthy of it, and "Oh yea I'll do med just cos I can" attitude. or even "I should probably do it cos good moneyz and prestige and everyone else is doing it"
Not only do they realise, no they CANT actually do it, cos they'll probably fail umat/gamsat every time, but they're just so breezy about it.


It irritates me young people dont have an understanding of how deep the med rabbit hole goes, and think its going to be an easy road from undergrad to specialist.
 

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Its the same with actuarial and law carrot, its irritating as fuck when ppl are like "Yea it'll be easy, I got the atar wooh im set ^_^" and they get DESTROYED lol.
 

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I couldnt care less about the competition tbh, what irritates me is the fact intellectual peasants think they are worthy of it, and "Oh yea I'll do med just cos I can" attitude. or even "I should probably do it cos good moneyz and prestige and everyone else is doing it"
Not only do they realise, no they CANT actually do it, cos they'll probably fail umat/gamsat every time, but they're just so breezy about it.


It irritates me young people dont have an understanding of how deep the med rabbit hole goes, and think its going to be an easy road from undergrad to specialist.
yeah look you pretty much invalidated everything you said by this point lol
 

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yeah look you pretty much invalidated everything you said by this point lol
uhh how?
My IQ may be 20 points lower than your freakishly high one but its still high, I dont consider myself an intellectual peasant by any means.

Im talking about the people who lack a scientific mind and scientific thinking, the people who believe they can easily get into med without those things.
 

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"intellectual peasants" is not a thing lol
 

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Calm down boys too much testosterone here. We can either escalate this to the MMA cage or settle it by seeing both sides. I can kind of understand where both of you are coming from but anyone talking about anything outside their field of expertise may indeed sound like an idiot. If you make assumptions like those made by anti vaccination groups about something you know nothing about then you are truly a fool. Likewise this would be the same for people wanting to pursue medicine without understanding what it is and what it entails. Dammit I was a fool in the past. I just hope people can learn a little from my experiences.
 

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Calm down boys too much testosterone here. We can either escalate this to the MMA cage or settle it by seeing both sides. I can kind of understand where both of you are coming from but anyone talking about anything outside their field of expertise may indeed sound like an idiot. If you make assumptions like those made by anti vaccination groups about something you know nothing about then you are truly a fool. Likewise this would be the same for people wanting to pursue medicine without understanding what it is and what it entails. Dammit I was a fool in the past. I just hope people can learn a little from my experiences.
Medman, is there a hospital which you really like working in? Last time you told me that you worked in Blacktown Hospital, is that a perm pos?
 

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Medman, is there a hospital which you really like working in? Last time you told me that you worked in Blacktown Hospital, is that a perm pos?
I've experienced Westmead, Nepean and Blacktown so far. Blacktown is probably the best so far considering they are implementing new technology here. Regardless public systems are set up for failure, the attitude is all wrong and the people at the top aren't exactly the brightest of the brightest to manage finances and implement change (but this could be due to other reasons). It's pretty much an old boy's club once you reach consultant position. Apparently even after killing prostitutes you will still be able to hold onto a job (reference to neurosurgeon at Nepean).

You will never get a permanent position until you hit consultancy. Anything below that is temporary (you will constantly need to find new jobs every year generally.)
 

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uhh how?
My IQ may be 20 points lower than your freakishly high one but its still high, I dont consider myself an intellectual peasant by any means.

Im talking about the people who lack a scientific mind and scientific thinking, the people who believe they can easily get into med without those things.
now i see why everyone talks shit about you
 

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Just wondering which hospital just out of curiosity. I think the general consensus now is that a PhD may bring prestige to the hospital and therefore, bringing in more funding and patients. I have not met any consultants from competitive specialties without a PhD nowadays. For less competitive specialties (geris, palliative, rehab etc.) there are still gaps for people without PhDs but for specialties such as cardiology, gastroenterology etc. Please enlighten me if I am wrong though as I would love to hear a some good news for non PhD candidates.
Refer to PM for further discussion. Ultimately, I would consider PhDs helpful, but not mandatory like an MBBS/MD is required to practice medicine. It is always helpful in job applications (more so in competitive specialties), however, but you need to consider the cost-benefit.
 

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