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[jimmysmith560]

So theres an autumn and spring session. is autumn semester 1? and spring semester 2? since I'm trying to register for my subjects

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You are correct. The first semester is Autumn and the second semester is Spring.

Regarding your subject registration, this indicates that your university journey will begin with NATS 1019, BIOS 1001, CHEM 1008 and an elective unit of your choice (as specified in the screenshot you included).

 

[jimmysmith560]

Jimmy it says CHEM 1005 isn’t available?

You are supposed to take CHEM 1005 in the Spring semester right? Some units may be available either throughout the year, or during a specific semester, which is the case of CHEM 1005 (Spring). You are not actually meant to worry about enrolling in your Spring semester units right now. However, if you wish to do so, make sure that you select “2022 Semester 2” on MySR.

 

[jimmysmith560]

Ah okay so I only have to enroll in my autumn subjects and then done?
When should I enroll in my spring subjects then?

That is correct. You can enrol in your Spring semester units once you complete your Autumn semester. WSU will send emails to inform students of the relevant dates, including when subject registration for the Spring semester opens etc.

 

[jimmysmith560]

ok so this is what my program looks like, image is a bit blurry so I've linked the sequence below for HD quality. https://hbook.westernsydney.edu.au/...way-teaching-primary-secondary/#structuretext just go to this and click the biology major

It's compulsory that I choose 40 points in my education minor, ill be doing that in my third year. So that leaves 40 electives points which i want to spend on chemistry. so i went to the chem major to find some chem courses to choose from. https://hbook.westernsydney.edu.au/majors-minors/chemistry-ug-testamur-major/#sequencetext
Problem is that all the chem courses here are year 2 level and so need me to complete introductory chem first. Does anyone know any chem units that i can choose from that year 1 level?
@jimmysmith560 @CM_Tutor @jazz519

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Bachelor of Science (Pathway to Teaching Primary/Secondary) (3756) < Western Sydney University

hbook.westernsydney.edu.au

Introductory Chemistry is a prerequisite for Analytical Chemistry plus Inorganic Chemistry and Essential Chemistry 2 is a prerequisite for Organic Chemistry. While there are other level 1 Chemistry units, such as Essential Chemistry 1, taking them is useless as they are classified as incompatible units. An incompatible unit is a unit that cannot be studied with another unit in the same course. For instance, you cannot take Essential Chemistry 1 if you have already completed Introductory Chemistry. If you have successfully completed an incompatible unit, you will need to choose another unit. An incompatible unit will not count towards your required credit points.

Since it does not seem like there are other level 1 units from the Chemistry major that you can take, a suggestion I have is to take a Physics unit as your elective in your first semester, and take Physical Chemistry (CHEM 2010) as an elective in your second year. There is a unit called Physics 1 (PHYS 1002) that can provide you with foundational knowledge of Physics, which may be beneficial to gain prior to taking Physical Chemistry. The unit description is as follows:

Physics is the study of the fundamental nature of matter, energy, space-time, and motion. It uses conceptual, mathematical and experimental tools to achieve this understanding. In this unit, we survey mechanics, electromagnetism, optics and thermal physics, and briefly consider relativity, quantum physics and nuclear physics. Conceptual, mathematical and experimental understanding of physics will be developed, and the use of the tools of physics (e.g. estimation, uncertainty, dimensional analysis) will be introduced. This unit provides non-specialists (e.g. students in other majors and aspiring secondary teachers) with a good basic overview of the subject, and prepares specialist students for further study.

Additional, unit-specific information can be found using the following link:

PHYS 1002 Physics 1 < Western Sydney University

hbook.westernsydney.edu.au

I hope this helps!

 

[jimmysmith560]

Ahhh Great idea! Since it’s introductory it’s fine if I don’t know any physics before hand right?

ah okay so this would also help me with the physical chem course next year
Aha great! Then since I would have finished introductory chem in autumn I should be able to take level 2 chem for my spring elective right!?

That is correct. There are no prerequisites to Physics 1. Instead, the assumed knowledge for this unit is Mathematics Advanced.

Yes, successfully completing Introductory Chemistry will allow you to take level 2 Chemistry units that have Introductory Chemistry as a prerequisite. in the Spring semester. While they are classified as level 2 units, it is not uncommon for students to take level 2 units in their first year. However, it is not recommended that you take any level 3 units in your first year as they explore content of advanced nature, which can possibly be overwhelming for first-year students. This applies to all degrees.

 

[jimmysmith560]

Yea that’s fine, being able to take level 2 chem gives me many options. Which chem course best represents the hsc syllabus?

The more advanced units get, the less they are likely to resemble HSC Chemistry (since they introduce new and more complex concepts). Based on this, I would suggest having a look at what each level 2 Chemistry unit entails using the handbook and determine which unit(s) would share the most similarities with HSC Chemistry.

 

[Baby Snail]

No they didn’t, the call guy literally gave up and told me to email that email you sent
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Problem is when you click on minors, the education thing isn’t available. So the guy said it has to be technical issue and told me to email them
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Gosh same here!

I'm having the same problem as well right now. I've emailed the science department about this but there's no guarantee of how long they'll take to respond back. I think it'd possibly them around 5 days since they said that they have heaps of emails from others that they are yet to respond to.

Is there any advice that they told you to get yourself out of this situation? If so, I'd be really grateful if you could pls let me know

 

[Baby Snail]

Ah are you also applying to become a teacher?

Yuppppp! I will be doing a major in biology and the minor...well, not so sure since they haven't yet responded back.

 

[Baby Snail]

hahaa!! same!
yea so the education minor is undergoing some changes, so its currently not available
Also apparently you choose your minor after your first year, so its fine!

Ahhh that makes me feel so relieved thank youuuu

Also, this is probably random, but which campus are you planning to go to? If we're going to the same campus then it'll be hilarious since we'll know each other before we even meet haha

 

[Baby Snail]

Oh nooo I'm going to Parramatta but it's all good haha. If you have any doubts, need extra help/resources later in the year, I'll be here to help. Don't hesitate to message me. Although I have no prior knowledge/resources for the course atm, I may find some later on and if that'd be of any help to you, then that's awesome. We can both help each other out if need be.

Good luck with everything, you'll do amazing!

 

[TheVuk]

So I haven’t been allocated to one of my classes? It says that the class is full and I’ve been on put a waiting list and all other timeslots are full too? But university is about to start in 2 weeks and won’t be able to conduct my class? I’m really confused I’m paying for these classes but can’t attend them?

same lad but mine starts tomorow wtf

 

[jimmysmith560]

So I haven’t been allocated to one of my classes? It says that the class is full and I’ve been on put a waiting list and all other timeslots are full too? But university is about to start in 2 weeks and won’t be able to conduct my class? I’m really confused I’m paying for these classes but can’t attend them?

Do you intend to complete this unit on campus or online? You may wish to change your enrolment to the other mode of delivery, which will hopefully have spaces remaining. Changing your enrolment at this point in time may require you to submit a Rule Waiver, which should be processed fairly quickly.

Alternatively, you may wish to either wait for some additional space to become available, or contact the unit coordinator informing them of your issue so that they can assist you.

Additionally, keep in mind that fees for units are finalised by census date. This means that the fees for each unit that you take will only officially apply to you after this deadline, being 8 April 2022 for the Autumn semester, which in turn means that if you face issues with enrolling in this unit, attending classes or, in the event that you don't feel ready for this unit yet (hopefully this will not be the case), no expenses will be incurred if you choose to drop the unit before 8 April 2022.

I hope this helps!

 

[jimmysmith560]

When I get the score it’s not a whole number so I’m confused on how to answer this normal distribution questionView attachment 35437

Would the following working help?

 

[cossine]

When I get the score it’s not a whole number so I’m confused on how to answer this normal distribution questionView attachment 35437

So Z-score does not have to be whole number.

How do you calculate the z-score of a random variable X drawn from a **standard normal distribution**.

The process of normalisation converts a non-standard normal distribution to a standard distribution. In your textbook there is probably some table that will have the cumulative probabilities for the **standard normal distribution**. Since the distribution is not a standard normal distribution you will have normalize the data i.e. that is calculate the z-score. These tables are sometimes defined differently so you may need to be little bit careful with how they are used.

As such going extremely difficult calculate an the value definite integral of a normal distribution without using a table or calculator of some form because it is not an elementary integral. But if your interested you could read the Jame Stewart Calculus. They do teach indirectly how to calculate the value.

 

[cossine]

How do I do this without excel

Use the table. You should be able find one online or online calculator.

 

[jimmysmith560]

How do I do this without excel

Use and be mindful of the following properties:

• - Here, we just look up the value of in the table and read off the proportion.
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Part (a):



, i.e. 25.46%

Part (b):









, i.e. 31.77%

 

[jimmysmith560]

On a different note, if you choose to take more mathematics-related electives, you should consider one of the following equivalent units:

• MATH 1012 Management Analytics - I took this unit in my first year as a compulsory professional unit and it went pretty well.
• MATH 1030 Statistics for Business

I thought I'd suggest one of those units since they cover concepts that appear to be similar to the ones in the unit that you are currently taking, such as:

• Data
• Distributions
• Probability
• Hypothesis testing

I think that taking one of the above units at some point may help relieve some of the pressure that will be imposed by other units within your program.

 

[jimmysmith560]

Na after this I can only choose 3-4 more electives for my course, gonna go full out with chem.
Since I did introductory chem next semester can I do a level 2 chem course and essential chem at the same time?

There are usually no problems with taking any combination of units, with the exception of level 3 units (which you should not be taking in your first year). To my knowledge, after finishing this semester, there will be no problem with taking Essential Chemistry next semester. In terms of level 2 units, out of the following:

• Analytical Chemistry
• Organic Chemistry
• Inorganic Chemistry
• Physical Chemistry

You can take Analytical Chemistry next semester since you would have met the prerequisite of completing Introductory Chemistry.

Organic Chemistry has Essential Chemistry as a prerequisite. Based on this, I don't believe you will be able to take this subject next semester.

You can take Inorganic Chemistry next semester since you would have met the prerequisite of completing Introductory Chemistry.

It doesn't seem like you can take Physical Chemistry next semester, given the fact that this unit has Essential Chemistry/Introductory Chemistry as a prerequisite(s).

 

[jimmysmith560]

Hmm which of those 2 available should I take for becoming a hsc chem teacher

Considering the following information from the University of Newcastle:

When you study Chemistry as an Education student, you will examine and build on the key concepts of basic atomic and molecular structure, fundamental inorganic chemistry and underlying physical concepts.

Based on this, it seems that, for the purpose of becoming an HSC Chemistry teacher, Inorganic Chemistry would be more suited to your needs in terms of content.

 

[jimmysmith560]

Ah right. And it says the physical chemistry is good too, so I’ll do those after essential chem ends.
Do you reckon I even need to do level 3 chem courses for hsc or just the level 2 ones will do?

If you are looking to develop an ability to comfortably teach HSC Chemistry, then you should probably allow for some form of exposure to the most advanced chemistry content that you can possibly study at undergraduate level, which would imply taking at least 1 level 3 unit.

With that being said, I am not a Chemistry expert by any means, so in order to make an informed decision, it would definitely be a good idea to also seek advice from someone with the relevant knowledge/experience, either from here or from Western.