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Private schools are so much better, even though religion is a core part of the school, it really does provide a better environment alongside the schools strict uniform and grooming rules, as well as general rules. I fucking hate having to cut my hair short and keeping it a natural colour, but i realise why i have to it and its made me far more disciplined than any other public school kid i know. I'm also an atheist, but i really do support the use of religion in the classroom, there are however some people at my school who take it far to seriously, but i'd rather have christian schools, than 'progressive' leftist anti religion schools.
 
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tbh year 11/12 is too important to waste time rehabilitating students like good teachers would try to do in primary school/junior high school. those disrupting the the lesson need to be weeded out and if they keep getting weeded out they need to have the option of leaving school. simple as that. although i take your second point - the leaving age should probaly be 15/16 (year 9/10). but i stand by what i said about nsw and their ad hoc curriculum and ad hoc teaching.
Yeh but it also depends just how distruptive bad they are, if the teacher believes it can be fixed with relative ease there's no harm giving it a shot, but yeh I p much agree.

how are you going to engage a 15 year old leb/islander guy from auburn with ADHD and an 8 year old reading level to get excited and engaged in studying Hamlet, or coordinate geometry, or the role of women in world war 2? You can't.
Yes well the aim is to not let it get to that stage by identifying and acting to remedy this earlier on. But of course this doesnt always happen and yes, point taken there are plenty of situations where it's pretty much a lost cause.
 

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Poor? That's ok, Megacorp will offer your kids "schooling" for only $5 a week (that's all you can afford in this scenario); in return they'll be trained as corporate slaves, and "only" have to work at Megacorp for $2/hour for 10 years after they finish school.

Remember you're the parent, you sign the contract so it's all legal!

There should be public funded education but the content should be deregulated somehow...
m8 did you just get trolled o rwere u playin along
 
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i met bob weissberg in america

he the professor of political science at the university of illinois and wrote a book called bad students not bad schools

he gave me an autographed copy with "To James: KEEP UP THE FIGHT! from bob" on the front page


its kind of funny how much more offensive he is irl when hes not expected to soften his incredibly un-pc views
What he said in that interview is reasonable.
 

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so if you end up with a bunch of low iq students in your class your salary gets fucking docked foir the whole year
Meh, i know numerous teachers at my old HS who couldnt teach to save their lives.

Took my english teacher 20mins to explain a poem about consumerism, and didnt even get it right.
Effectively, the only thing she needed to say was "You are bombarded by consumerism when you are born and it never stops", and give some examples. She didnt do that.

Also im just venting cause i had a physics teacher for bio, a bio teacher for physics, 3 different maths teachers in 2unit, which i didnt wanna do and 4 english teachers who couldnt even speak the language at the best of times.
 
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I had and agriculture teacher for physics and then in year 12 an earth and environmental teacher, his E&E class got a sub for the rest of the year that just showed them videos every lesson :(
 

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Some teachers are really good and make you like the subject.
We had a sub come in for physics, went from <30 to a 56 for the HSC.

Im not kidding, the guy is a legend, even brought in a working proctoscope lol.
 

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Actually i did, i was expecting a fail and told the Optus Cadetship i was going to fail and i was turned down a job. Then i got a pass and was like FFFUU.
 

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No but seriously, why can't I sell my child into a corporate education scheme.

And don't give me any nonsense about civic virtue or Adam Smith and 'ineffectual operators'.

Edit: Wait, this sounds like medieval European apprenticeships.
 

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Poor? That's ok, Megacorp will offer your kids "schooling" for only $5 a week (that's all you can afford in this scenario); in return they'll be trained as corporate slaves, and "only" have to work at Megacorp for $2/hour for 10 years after they finish school.

Remember you're the parent, you sign the contract so it's all legal!

There should be public funded education but the content should be deregulated somehow...
I think you'd find 100% of Libertarians on this forum are the most interventionist when it comes to teaching kids bullshit/mistreating them, dude. Parents rights can suck a dick if they're feeding the kids shit, not educating them or turning them into little christfags through homeschooling jesus, not to mention fucking them.
 

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segregate the kids into smart and dumb at a young age

fuck the 'pilot students' programs, put the good kids into selective schools and work hard at making them learn shit and be talented for the future of the nation

teach the other kids basic reading/rithmetic and hold the cunts back if they don't pass their tests

if they're retarded put them in retard classes where we can't see them

not everyone gets to have dreams, drill that shit into them at a young age

you can't fucking redistribute society through education, some people are born dumbshits and will be taken advantage of, I don't give a shit about that and anyone with more than two braincells to rub together really shouldn't. There is NOTHING you can do to help these idiotic fuckwits, so why should you? Just be comforted by the fact that you're better than this human detritus.

The media does a good job of distracting these peons with celebrity news and cars and the like, but we do need to remove their right to vote or their need to vote, preferably through removing the restrictions on mandatory voting.

This is a group of people who should be best left to their own devices but shouldn't be able to affect the upper classes.

Meritocracies work, just because a few idiots make it rich doesn't undermine the overwhelming evidence that meritocracies work.

Then again Australia is some socialist babying hellhole that wants everyone to have equality of outcome, so we can't really win in this bullshit country.

We're going to end up with a welfare dependent highly-indebted underclass that can't read, can't write and can barely fucking communicate, at the same time that we have an aging population that bleeds the country dry.

The productive and intelligent people will be overtaxed and overburdened from both sides, as moronic immigrants and the like mug us in the streets and the government comes after us day by day for more of our money

The thinking people of this world need to go on strike! Those who drive the economy of the world, the creators, the inventors, the scientists and the entrepreneurs need to leave! To hide away from the parasites and show them that without us the world will come to a halt!
 

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i dunno i intend to home school my kids to some degree

why would i want to send my kids to this


I went to a selective private school so my education wasn't too bad, that that was school managed (Except for the religious shit but w/e I got good marks in it because it's p obvious and SoR in the HSC is a fucking UAI booster up the shizzle)

basically it was
- history: women and aboriginal in history, nothing of actual interest
- maths: maths
- english: women gays and aboriginal study
- science: aboriginal science (notrly)
- Economics: economics
- Religion: aboriginal religions rainbow serpents and shit
- Drama: aboriginal plays about aboriginals and women
 
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tbh when i was at school there wasnt that much shit like that

there was a lot of really dumb feminised shit and some boong shit but not that much it may have been like 10-15% of the curriculum im sure things are going to get much worse

dubbo south public high school represent bro
 

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segregate the kids into smart and dumb at a young age

fuck the 'pilot students' programs, put the good kids into selective schools and work hard at making them learn shit and be talented for the future of the nation

teach the other kids basic reading/rithmetic and hold the cunts back if they don't pass their tests

if they're retarded put them in retard classes where we can't see them

not everyone gets to have dreams, drill that shit into them at a young age

you can't fucking redistribute society through education, some people are born dumbshits and will be taken advantage of, I don't give a shit about that and anyone with more than two braincells to rub together really shouldn't. There is NOTHING you can do to help these idiotic fuckwits, so why should you? Just be comforted by the fact that you're better than this human detritus.

The media does a good job of distracting these peons with celebrity news and cars and the like, but we do need to remove their right to vote or their need to vote, preferably through removing the restrictions on mandatory voting.

This is a group of people who should be best left to their own devices but shouldn't be able to affect the upper classes.

Meritocracies work, just because a few idiots make it rich doesn't undermine the overwhelming evidence that meritocracies work.

Then again Australia is some socialist babying hellhole that wants everyone to have equality of outcome, so we can't really win in this bullshit country.

We're going to end up with a welfare dependent highly-indebted underclass that can't read, can't write and can barely fucking communicate, at the same time that we have an aging population that bleeds the country dry.

The productive and intelligent people will be overtaxed and overburdened from both sides, as moronic immigrants and the like mug us in the streets and the government comes after us day by day for more of our money

The thinking people of this world need to go on strike! Those who drive the economy of the world, the creators, the inventors, the scientists and the entrepreneurs need to leave! To hide away from the parasites and show them that without us the world will come to a halt!
If Education was the way you envision it, you would still be in the 'retard' class.
 

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I went to a selective private school so my education wasn't too bad, that that was school managed (Except for the religious shit but w/e I got good marks in it because it's p obvious and SoR in the HSC is a fucking UAI booster up the shizzle)

basically it was
- history: women and boongs in history, nothing of actual interest
- maths: can't really have abo maths so none of that
- english: women gays and boongs study
- science: boong science (notrly)
- Economics: none of that blackfella shit
- Religion: boong religions rainbow serpents and shit
- Drama: boong plays about boongs and women
I think this is single handedly the dumbest thing you have ever penned Nolan.
 

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