low atar scores. (2 Viewers)

[lpower3]

I probably seem extremely naive for asking this question but here goes..Most people on this forum are generally aiming for atars >90 or around that. Why is it that i never ever see anyone receive an atar ~30/40 mark? Family friends of mine recently completed the hsc and got an atar of 52, even though he is quite literally one of the most unintelligent, lazy people i've ever met... i initially thought your atar was a "rank" which scaled you from 1-100 (1 being poor, 100 being incredible), however NO ONE ever seems to get atars <40ish? ideally, someone answering this question would fully explain the system but any help would be appreciated.. just pure curiousity really.ta

 

[Dylanamali]

ATAR ranks you against your year 7 cohort, so it also takes into account everyone who dropped out in year 10 etc.

 

[Riproot]

My oldest brother got ~45 (UAI)
My other brother's gf got 35.55 (2010)
One of my close friends got 32.05 (2011)
A kid at my school (were probs a few more) got * (2011)

Maybe you just don't know anyone really dumb.

 

[Riproot]

ATAR ranks you against your year 7 cohort, so it also takes into account everyone who dropped out in year 10 etc.

our cohort grew by ~23,000 from year 7 though, so it didn't benefit us at all.

 

[Lolly_Polly]

My oldest brother got ~45 (UAI)
My other brother's gf got 35.55 (2010)
One of my close friends got 32.05 (2011)
A kid at my school (were probs a few more) got * (2011)

Maybe you just don't know anyone really dumb.

Did they just bomb every single assessment task in yr 12?

 

[pony_magician]

2 people in my class got a < 30

 

[Absolutezero]

ATAR ranks you against your year 7 cohort, so it also takes into account everyone who dropped out in year 10 etc.

Yep, because it includes everyone, the people who dropped out take up most of the lower section. So as you complete year 12, you're guaranteed ~25+

 

[Lolly_Polly]

2 people in my class got a < 30

Did they have to repeat year 12? or what are they doing now?

 

[Dylanamali]

lol if you get less than 30, i doubt you'd want to repeat school..

probs just head into the workforce, pick up a trade etc..

 

[Lolly_Polly]

how many 99.95 can they have in a year? Is there a limit?

 

[Riproot]

Did they just bomb every single assessment task in yr 12?

nope.

My friend wasn't even bottom of his school (~32.05).

Yep, because it includes everyone, the people who dropped out take up most of the lower section. So as you complete year 12, you're guaranteed ~25+

you say that but:

our cohort grew by ~23,000 from year 7

Did they have to repeat year 12? or what are they doing now?

With a score like that there would be no point repeating school, you'd be fucked.

They just finished and left.
My oldest brother is a 3rd year elec apprentice.
My other brother's gf quit her job to become a mum and now she's doing a TAFE course to do preschool care.
My friend is job hunting. (I think he has a job now)
And my "friend" from my school does nothing because he is unemployable.

Failing school isn't the end of the world.
Richard Branson is dyslexic. FFS. Billionaire.

 

[Riproot]

how many 99.95 can they have in a year? Is there a limit?

There were 49 last year (big cohort) and there are around 45 every year.

It's the top .01% or some shit.

 

[Dylanamali]

around 50 i think.

i if i recall correctly, every .05 is 50 people.

 

[D94]

I probably seem extremely naive for asking this question but here goes..Most people on this forum are generally aiming for atars >90 or around that. Why is it that i never ever see anyone receive an atar ~30/40 mark? Family friends of mine recently completed the hsc and got an atar of 52, even though he is quite literally one of the most unintelligent, lazy people i've ever met... i initially thought your atar was a "rank" which scaled you from 1-100 (1 being poor, 100 being incredible), however NO ONE ever seems to get atars <40ish? ideally, someone answering this question would fully explain the system but any help would be appreciated.. just pure curiousity really.ta

Firstly, if you are trying to find someone on this forum with a 30-50 ATAR, then I highly doubt they'd be advertising something like this. Secondly, there are over 600 schools in the state, which constitutes to 70,000 students. Chances are that you won't meet someone who has gotten a 30 ATAR.

 

[Lolly_Polly]

There were 49 last year (big cohort) and there are around 45 every year.

It's the top .01% or some shit.

around 50 i think.

i if i recall correctly, every .5 is 50 people.

oh wow !!

 

[Dylanamali]

our cohort grew by ~23,000 from year 7 though, so it didn't benefit us at all.

what factors could make the cohort grow by such a large number?

only thing i could think of would be international students.. doubt that could make up that significant number.

 

[Dylanamali]

oh wow !!

yeah so my atar of 98.75, would be around top 1300.

 

[Lolly_Polly]

yeah so my atar of 98.75, would be around top 1300.

=O

 

[Dylanamali]

=O

aha yeah, kinda puts things into perspective.
I was relatively shocked when I realised that aswell.

 

[Riproot]

i if i recall correctly, every .5 is 50 people.

it was 49-50 for our year.

Firstly, if you are trying to find someone on this forum with a 30-50 ATAR, then I highly doubt they'd be advertising something like this. Secondly, there are over 600 schools in the state, which constitutes to 70,000 students. Chances are that you won't meet someone who has gotten a 30 ATAR.

unless you live in GWS

what factors could make the cohort grow by such a large number?

only thing i could think of would be international students.. doubt that could make up that significant number.

it must've.

My year 7 ELLA and SNAP test say our year 7 cohort was ~52,000 and our year 12 HSC cohort was reported ~73,000 (so only ~20,000 growth)

Also, students in other countries doing the HSC and shit.

yeah so my atar of 98.75, would be around top 1300.

I'm top ~25,740

Lol

(would you be top ~5940? (wait, does that even make sense? (just finished my physics assignment and woke up at 5:30 this morning. I have no brain power left.)))