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TheBloop
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was just about to say "mOst_uniQue" hahaha
Dr_Fresh
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its bullshit full stop.
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+1. Although perhaps I have no right to make that call, given I didn't do too well in the test.
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but the first section at least has a small amount of relevance since doctors need logic and shit.
I kind of understand the purpose of the UMAT, but I think the test is highly ineffective in achieving its purpose. I made this post the other day in the HSN, so I will repost it here where it is more relevant
"The rationale behind the UMAT is that it identifies traits and attributes in people which are desired in physicians. We studied psychometric tests (the UMAT is a glorified psychometric test) in HR at university and a lot of academic boffins and their research suggests that they are very effective. I think its complete voodoo though, these tests may be effective at identifying certain traits but they cant say whether you will exhibit them in a practical setting (i.e. a person may exhibit strong leadership traits on a test, but this doesnt necessarily mean that they are good leaders). I also disagree with the research statistics into psychometric tests, but I wont go on about that because it will be a case of tl;dr."
"The rationale behind the UMAT is that it identifies traits and attributes in people which are desired in physicians. We studied psychometric tests (the UMAT is a glorified psychometric test) in HR at university and a lot of academic boffins and their research suggests that they are very effective. I think its complete voodoo though, these tests may be effective at identifying certain traits but they cant say whether you will exhibit them in a practical setting (i.e. a person may exhibit strong leadership traits on a test, but this doesnt necessarily mean that they are good leaders). I also disagree with the research statistics into psychometric tests, but I wont go on about that because it will be a case of tl;dr."
Dr_Fresh
U MAD??
its a test that serves two purposes.
1. universities dont have the headache of having to select from 20,000 people for interviews.
2. ACER rakes in some nice cash
although it does test intelligence to an extent, its value in identifying good future medical practitioners is close to 0.
1. universities dont have the headache of having to select from 20,000 people for interviews.
2. ACER rakes in some nice cash
although it does test intelligence to an extent, its value in identifying good future medical practitioners is close to 0.
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It's a completely unnecessary test. being successful in medicine has very less to do with intelligence, its just about how much you read and research. my mum has no fuckin idea about anything IRL but shes still a successful doctor because she studied her ass off in her 20s.
What do you think of GAMSAT?
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is umat an australia wide thing, or just for NSW?
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you ask this now?
Dr_Fresh
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gamsat actually has a purpose. it tests the basic sciences, social science and writing skills which is what allows graduate medicine courses to be 4 years instead of 5 or 6. if you are able to pass the exam, you are deemed to be competent in these which is what is taught in year 1 of an undergraduate medicine course.
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...so people around Australia did the umat?
Wow.
Or maybe it's like one of those equivalence things that nsw has if people want to study interstate i.e. our atar is equated to whatever a certain state uses
Wow.
Or maybe it's like one of those equivalence things that nsw has if people want to study interstate i.e. our atar is equated to whatever a certain state uses
Dr_Fresh
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wow...u didnt know that? baffling
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Nah, people all around the world do it baby.
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Also, before the exam, I tried reading the notes on s1 you sent me, and it made absolutely no sense to me
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whoa, that's crazy.
I actually thought it was a NSW only thing, but was accepted by interstate unis