Year 11 2014 Chat :) (34 Viewers)

[rumbleroar]

lolol actually the debate I was in yesterday (we won yay!) we argued that
a) Eng should be mandatory
b) Eng should be mandatory and not some other subjects

And we basically said that eng > math (comparably) b/c of critical and logical thinking that eng provided. (Along with various other arguments lewl)

lol again
apples and oranges
how are you supposed to compare two subjects that require different skill sets? that's like comparing art with maths

I also think English in year 11/12 is important in the sense that it also develops critical thinking skills and students learn how to articulate opinions and justify them, it is a lot more than just literature study, even if often it just comes across that way. It is a lot more nebulous and independent in terms of ideas, there is a strong element of self-learning involved and your own analysis of your texts which is actually highly relevant to uni.

...really? real critical thinking is actually done in extension 1, rather than advanced. advanced lacks the complexity that extension 1 provides, as it deals with a comparatively narrower scope of ideas. also the ideas discussed in adv don't enrich your experience as much as extension.

and m8 i don't think you've really experienced uni before so i don't think "analytical skills" developed in english will necessarily assist you in university (not saying it doesn't, because it definitely depends on the degree you do - i was talking to some people today in uni and they were like yeah the skills in english haven't even been used in my degree yet, but skills ive developed in society and culture have helped me a lot more with structuring and analysing reports, etc).

you develop analytical skills in other subjects too, not just english, so its kind of bs when people say "oh english helps you develop critical thinking skills" when you actually develop those evaluative skills across a large range of subjects.

 

[Soulful]

From my rather limited experience, 3U is so much more enjoyable and interesting than advanced

 

[Futuremedstudent]

Exactly

Bonjour (hey)
How are u?

 

[hawkrider]

...really? real critical thinking is actually done in extension 1, rather than advanced. advanced lacks the complexity that extension 1 provides, as it deals with a comparatively narrower scope of ideas. also the ideas discussed in adv don't enrich your experience as much as extension.

and m8 i don't think you've really experienced uni before so i don't think "analytical skills" developed in english will necessarily assist you in university (not saying it doesn't, because it definitely depends on the degree you do - i was talking to some people today in uni and they were like yeah the skills in english haven't even been used in my degree yet, but skills ive developed in society and culture have helped me a lot more with structuring and analysing reports, etc).

you develop analytical skills in other subjects too, not just english, so its kind of bs when people say "oh english helps you develop critical thinking skills" when you actually develop those evaluative skills across a large range of subjects.

Now I really wish I did EX1

sah much ragret

 

[rumbleroar]

From my rather limited experience, 3U is so much more enjoyable and interesting than advanced

same hahaha
i wish i could do extension english 1 without needing to do advanced
advanced is the biggest waste of energy and time i seriously do not give a shit about belonging lol

 

[hawkrider]

same hahaha
i wish i could do extension english 1 without needing to do advanced
advanced is the biggest waste of energy and time i seriously do not give a shit about belonging lol

You can bitch as much about it, but it won't change anything

so might as well do the best you can.

 

[dangerouss]

Now I really wish I did EX1

sah much ragret

Awks cause I'm too poor at English to do ext1

 

[hawkrider]

Awks cause I'm too poor at English to do ext1

But too good to do Standard

 

[rumbleroar]

Awks cause I'm too poor at English to do ext1

nws
theres like 50 ranks difference between my adv and ext rank (lol)

 

[dangerouss]

But too good to do Standard

Not really lel

 

[dangerouss]

nws
theres like 50 ranks difference between my adv and ext rank (lol)

Better ranks in ext1 eh?

 

[Fiction]

lol again
apples and oranges
how are you supposed to compare two subjects that require different skill sets? that's like comparing art with maths

It was a debate We had an hour to prepare. We wanted to win. Believe it or not, but not everyone agrees with what they're arguing sometimes~

 

[rumbleroar]

Better ranks in ext1 eh?

yeppp haha
im like 7/139 in ext 1 and like 59/160 in adv LOL dat disparity

 

[rumbleroar]

It was a debate We had an hour to prepare. We wanted to win. Believe it or not, but not everyone agrees with what they're arguing sometimes~

haha yep thats true
my friends were preparing for a debate about banning religious symbols in schools and stuff
it was quite interesting

 

[Fiction]

haha yep thats true
my friends were preparing for a debate about banning religious symbols in schools and stuff
it was quite interesting

OMIGOSH q.q We wanted to do that one D: But the other team chose it as their third choice so it was ruled out ;-;

wait do year 11 and 12 have the same debating topics...?

We had the option of debating about banning schools from putting religious symbols on uniform - is that the same as urs?

 

[Crisium]

Bonjour (hey)
How are u?

Je suis bon (I am good) (I'm doing this from memory so im not sure if that's right)

How are you?

 

[lavender1001]

Okay guys I currently love maths more than English and I think I'll always do. Although, as said before they are equally important and serve entirely different purposes.
But you know, everybody be hatin' on maths here (except for the odd 1 or 2 bros) so I'm going to make my point (I like arguments, just sayin')

Ahem, according to linguists, there are about 1500 different languages spoken in the world today (English being the dominant one). And while no one would suggest that this multiplicity of tongues is the only reason for there being so little unity in the world, it certainly interferes with there being more cooperation.
However, as measured by the millions of those who speak it fluently and by the historic consequences of their unified efforts, mathematics is arguably the most successful global language spoken. It has made electricity, airplanes, landing a man on the moon and medicine all earthshaking accomplishments (where would we be without the Internet?).
In the language of mathematics, equations are like poetry. They state truths with unique precision, convey volumes of information in rather brief terms, and often are difficult for the uninitiated to comprehend. And just as conventional poetry helps us to see deep within ourselves, mathematical poetry helps us to see far beyond ourselves-if not all the way up to heaven, then at least out to the brink of the visible universe.
In attempting to distinguish between prose and poetry, Robert Frost once suggested that a poem, by definition, is a pithy form of expression that can never be truly translated. The same can be said for mathematics: It is impossible to understand the true meaning of an equation , or to appreciate it's beauty, unless it is read in the delightfully quirky language in which it was penned.

Suck on that Justem. And by the way, without maths, those words such as parabola, etc would not even exist. Man, we could have called them anything, like dim sum or something. Lol, jokes.

Again guys, I am not downgrading English or implying that it is inferior to maths. I love both but I just like maths more. And I also want to make fun of Em (but I still love you bb ).

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[justem]

From my rather limited experience, 3U is so much more enjoyable and interesting than advanced

Yes this is so true

 

[Futuremedstudent]

Je suis bon (I am good) (I'm doing this from memory so im not sure if that's right)

How are you?

u could say that but a better way to say that would be 'ca va bien'.

 

[liamlolz]

I think that English, as a language, is equally important to Maths however I think that Maths as a subject is more important and useful (to me, anyway). If, however, the subject English was more focused on the ability to write more, rather than to analyse texts in freakish detail, than I would say the opposite.