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if christians found it offensive that the quran doesn't acknowledge jesus as the son of god, would you support the quran not being published so as to not offend them? second, if this is all about not offending, what about those of us that are offended by the idea that freedom of speech should...

isn't it like jesus's ghost?

ok, wait, to check....were you saying that men should be left out of the decision making process, or the process of being responsible for the pregnancy, or both? i interpretted your comment as just the second. sorry if i misinterpretted that.

i mean, in those guys defenses...girls are pretty much just glorified dishwashers

been on the receiving end of that, partially. some people just want to know what else is out there enough to know they're making the right decision. to each his own.

yeah, but, if he has no say in the decision-making process, why is he responsible for outcomes of her decisions? its her body, so why should he be responsible for it?

much as i like Lincoln, he did stuff based on what would keep the U.S. intact, not what he thought was 'right' per se

related question: if the mother is the only one who gets to make decisions on this.... should child support be gotten rid of? since its the woman's choice, its her body, the guy shouldn't be responsible for said choices.

the hanging chad stuff was horribly misrepresented. considering according to recounts, bush would've won the state of florida. both parties play dirty to some level, i mean, you also had gore's lawyers that got a lot of military ballots thrown out in the 2000 election. its why they watched ohio...

saddam wasn't just letting it be searched. if he'd complied, it would've been only several months...less than a year of time. Saddam fought it the whole time.

i've not even heard ALLEGATIONS of that one yet. Not to mention that the Democrats would have to screw up horribly again for them to lose another election. Bush got relected thanks to the Democrats not being able to create an actual platform for getting elected.

but there's always make-up sex

well, two catagories....actual disagreement, which i've tended to sort out through discussion... or just when someone's in a bad mood. in past relationships where thats an issue, i just try to get her into a better mood to get rid of tensions and cut down arguements

from the male view of "a divorce means the woman gets all my stuff"... i look at marriage as basicly saying to someone that i believe in the relationship so much that i'll bet a portion of all the money i'll ever make that we can make things work

its aslo not like drug smuggling is the sort of thing one does in a momentary lapse in judgement

other. thread.

its possible to be ethical and moral without believing in god though. and take the "is there a god" debate to its proper thread

i think it should be legal...i'm just saying that i disagree with this attitude that abortion isn't often a fix to irresponsible behavior.

heck, i know there's quotes from chirac about this too

so, massive american conspiracy theory?