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Okay, you have a point with regards to my specific example. But the fact is, people are allowed to discuss and debate things which don't directly affect them. It's not okay to be personally hostile to someone about something like their subject choices, but I haven't really encountered that - the...

Nor does it achieve anything debating the merits of a university admission scheme that we can't change, as we have been doing for most of this thread. It doesn't need to have a point - people like to share opinions and discuss things even without a practical consequence.

The US system developed mostly as a consequence of their non-uniform secondary school system, with more state and local government bodies setting different educational standards, and many different types of high school diplomas. I don't know if there's any evidence to suggest whether that sort...

Well, it's not really 'hostility', it's more that those people would hate to be stuck doing it. I 'despise' Visual Arts, but that's because I wouldn't want to do it myself, and I personally don't consider it valuable for my situation, but I don't mind if someone else does it.

The experience at my school has been that the maths and science people tend to do quite well at English and humanities subjects, but tend to despise them as it's not their primary interest.

Nowadays (i.e. since Kevin Rudd) almost all domestic places are CSP. You'll get a Commonwealth Assistance Form (or online equivalent) on the day you enrol at uni, which is the formal application for HECS-HELP.

Yes, I also know a lot of maths/science people who despise arts and humanities and indeed I do 'despise' a number of arts subjects (I don't think they're completely worthless, but I just suck at them, and there are a few courses which really are worth a bit less than other subjects :p )...

That was the amendment in question.

I hope you're not implying that most maths/science students don't have a good understanding of society, critical thinking or communication skills. (I've found more maths students have fairly good 'artsy' skills compared to the number of arts students who have fairly good maths skills.)

Where do you find the numbers on total school entries?

Not since most DFEE positions were abolished.

It's rather hard to run an educational institution where you're not teaching specific outcomes. But that said, you can work within those outcomes to encourage free thinking. (Yes, some HSC syllabuses could be improved in this regard.)

Absolutely. We have TAFE for vocational training, and they do a pretty good job of it too. (I have nothing against TAFE - it's definitely the best option for many people.) The HSC is a memory game for some, sure, but for those of us who really try to apply ourselves it's more than that.

Conversely, I found Legal to be easier than Physics and Chem (even though I'm usually called a maths/science oriented person). The scaling system recognises that most Legal Studies candidates are not of the same level as most Physics or MX2 candidates. Obviously, everyone's cases are different...

Definitely into my course - 2009 cutoff of 81.65, so I'm pretty safe :D

After all the offers are out.

It's not 'more important', it just so happens that it's harder to get a good mark in Physics than many humanities.

Outside of combined law/med and a few of those more elite degrees, most double degrees have the same cutoff as the relevant single degrees. What program are you thinking of?

If you actually look at the scaling stats, there are more arts/humanities subjects in the top 10 scaling courses than there are maths/science subjects, if I remember correctly. Extension English scales very well, as do some of the Music courses and a few other humanities.

I'd definitely do it if not for how much it costs. Just out of interest Aerath: do you know if your friend got his recheck fee refunded?