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elite-sport really doesn't seem to help our societies fitness in any way what-so-ever. Australia's per capita spending on the olympics is probably the highest of any nation and yet we're also the fattest. I support programs for kids sport and helping out those who are up and coming. I do not...

Hey brad, you should have gone to the Lennox v Shermer debate. I think you'd like lennox's points, he sounds a lot like you especially in that I think he's dealt with the atheist community a fair bit and has a sense of respect for some of it.

What woman could tame such a wild beast?

Riet's so fucking hardcore.

It's quite obvious to me that our elite sporting culture is of great benefit to the wider community. One of the most apparent benefits would seem to be that our children are so healthy, being the most obese nation on earth and all. Plus where would we learn aussie values such as a 'fair go' when...

Nah man, see there's nothing that stops a homosexual person from... once or more times in their life out of the perhaps thousands of times they have sex doing it heterosexually for the purpose of pro-creation. It's pretty hard tbh to find lesbian couples these days that don't have a baby and tbh...

I'm being quite legit, I find women more attractive in their underwear/nice clothes than I do completely naked *shrug*.

it's the floral dresses that attract me to them tbh guys.

tbh I think it'd be a better world if our little kids could play in the sprinklers naked again like i did when I was a young lad!

my dad's beat me up a few times...

BRAD: Well because for the most part we don't think about the meta-ethical issues too much, neither do you really and if you do you just say 'god did it', I could equally flippantly say it's the 'human spirit' or something. BTW I'm sorry that people come off as abrasive, speaking for myself it's...

This just in: Nation in shock as Amanda Vanstone is fatally injured when struck by harpoon on her trip back to Italy.

I don't see why Brad doesn't want to or can't differentiate between normative ethical statements and those of a meta-ethical or epistemological nature, he's definitely had it all laid out for him in this thread and others. For instance I've explained to him that any value system even down to...

You know I actually agree with this. If a government feels that as a part of creating a more sophisticated society it would be beneficial to have unions etc in our universities then I believe they should fund them just as they fund new sporting grounds etc.

I've already dealt with this aspect too... Do you actually read the posts of people who disagree with you? Well first I'll accept the contentious proposition that most people wouldn't want art galleries (remembering that a lot of people have niche hobbies so you could easily trade and say for...

Oh jesus christ hahahhaha Truly you could just explain why it is you feel student unions should be compulsory and not industrial unions. I mean there does seem to be rather similar benefits to members of the industrial unions, right? There is an argument here, but you're not making it and I...

No I don't, I think if you told people "Either pay your taxes or you do not get to use our roads/hospitals/etc" they would pay them. What you have with VSU is people being told "Either pay your fees or don't get the benefits of the union" and they're not... so yeah I think they're quite...

I'm mainly worried about shady porn producers in south africa sending me a bill :S

The majority of people do want at least some of the services taxes provide though, in that they use them or feel pleased that they benefit others sort of like charity. Obviously some people may only want to use less or more than others but no matter what if you are a member of Australian society...

1, I have no problem, it's the world that has the problem.