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Re: Court rejects WYD annoyance laws TBH I was hoping the laws would stay in place to further a case for a bill of rights.

Court rejects WYD annoyance laws http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/07/15/2304138.htm?section=justin Citizens free to annoy World Youth Day pilgrims: Fed Court Emily Smith In a victory for activists, police officers won't be allowed to move on people for annoying World Youth Day...

No... I reject everything supernatural. I was merely pointing out that even if you could establish that there is a need for something supernatural, it need not be a god. If you want to define anything supernatural as a God then OK sure call it a God. Things coming from other things etc are...

There were many female preachers in the bible who held high positions of leadership (Miriam, Deborah, Huldah, Priscilla, Phoebe). Tim 2:11-12, 1 Cor 14:34 refer to the need not for women to be silent but to not occupy absolute commanding roles in the church i.e. Become priests, as this is not...

there's all kinds of insane in this thread, good job guys.

Well if this faith stuff is all you have to offer then it 'proves' that God does not exist as well as we can ever prove anything... so if this is all you have to offer and you're not willing to debate the merits of faith-based beliefs then the discussion is over and I don't want to hear anything...

I don't 'feel' the suffering of other people, my life is fairly joyous or at least far more joyous than nothingness. Do you think I should feel bad that my life is better than others? How do YOU reconcile YOUR pleasure delivered to you by god while others suffer? It seems perfectly natural from...

I would be willing to die if all the pleasures/joys of life were sucked out of it somehow.... But seriously can you address the rest of my points? I truly don't think you've got many legs left to stand on Mr Inasero... You are a dogmatic person who rejects logic and therefore no place within the...

Because you really, really, really hope it's true... If you truly are willing to die for your belief then maybe you're one of the minority of believers who are truly just insane.

Well mate how lucky for you to have had God reveal himself to you, the rest of us haven't had such an experience. BTW Go back a page and respond, I've never had a theist actually deliver an acceptable heuristic which wouldn't also prove the veracity of the koran... but since you claim you've...

Yeah... he actually made me read that shit. I really don't see what I was supposed to get out of it.

You have no way of knowing it wasn't another God/Supernatural entity. No way at all. But if you just want to magically conjure up that God told you that he exists so it's basically "God exists because I believe he told me he exists" then that's fine... but your belief is still stuck in your head...

Close-minded is a really lame jibe from someone who believes in absolute truth without any rationality to it.... I mean, is it even possible to get any more dogmatic?

You're absolutely wrong. I want God to exist... really badly. There is nothing I would wish for more than for there to be a happy afterlife where my loved ones have gone/will go, truly nothing I would wish for more, if it is at all possible then it would be greater than the summation of...

If you need to place something outside of the realm of rational inquiry which mind you is where we can choose to believe in dragons if we so please then you have lost any sort of credibility for your beliefs.... It becomes basically "I believe because I believe" which I not only don't believe is...

Furthermore Xenu is the most scientific of all creation theories, a hyper-advanced alien is much more 'likely' scientifically to have created us than any supernatural 'god'.

I have all the proof I need, which is Xenu's transcendental truth as given to me by his messenger through means which are inconceivable to the unworthy mumblings of our human logic systems. Furthermore you believe Xenu does not exist without evidence! The lack of evidence as detected through...

I know you guys all think this is funny and it definitely is irrational that he might exist but I believe he exists, I just do and it is true that he does.

BIGGEST CONGREGATION OF TOSSERS IN SYDNEY SINCE THE LAST TOUR OF THE PAKISTANI CRICKET TEAM. seriously what a huge bunch of low-quality people. Do you think there would be any WYD pub crawls though? If so let's get in on one.

:rolleyes: a) Implying that something 'supernatural' is at work is not to imply that a God exists. b) I didn't appeal to anything being "beyond our understanding". c) It is a naturalistic explanation for the origin of our universe as we see it... flowing from our understanding of natural...