On the topic of reasoning/comprehension skills, one of my friends scored 99.75 (certainly enough for almost any course) and now does an Arts (philosophy/politics) degree: I wouldn't personally argue with them in a dark alley
That's amazing! ^^ It's inspiring to see people doing what they love, not just for the money.
the STAT is a joke compared to the UMAT srsly. and u think potential med students dont have to go to hospitals/clinics for experience? what else are u going to talk about at ur interviews? and as cosy as the chair may be, if u havent been in one of the interviews, u definitely have no idea.
The STAT is just a hurdle for veterinary science admission, not a difficult hurdle I admit. Potential medicine students (undergraduate) don't have to go to hospitals/clinics for experience at all since at the interview, the questions they ask is about you as a person, you growing up, your friends, your parents, your grandparents and your relationships with them, what you got out of school, who your role models were and obviously why you want to do medicine. I know this because my friend had to go to an interview.
It isn't compulsory to do work experience for medicine if you are an undergraduate, unlike veterinary science. We have a commitment form to fill out with many boxes to tick that include many different species of animals, such as experience with clipping a bird's wings, and such. The more boxes you tick, the better since you already have had some experience with animals. This makes the whole selection process more competitive because obviously those who have had more animal experience would be selected at a higher priority.
The UMAT is like a second chance, the following table are the average results that have been required over the past three years in order to be offered an interview:
As you can see, you don't need a ATAR in the 99s, unless you get a low UMAT raw mark of around 50. It is possible to gain entry with ATARs of 91-95, provided that you have your UMAT score to compensate, as how my friend gained entry.
Having to not do UMAT for veterinary science can be a detriment as the UMAT can not compensate for our ATAR scores if any of us don't achieve the cut off.
If you see the University of Sydney cutoffs:
2010 ATAR course cut-offs for <br>Faculty of Science degrees - Future Undergraduate Students - The University of Sydney
the medical courses require an ATAR score of at least 92/93.
You have to pass Year 12 with very high marks as getting into a university course is a cut-throat business with only the best applicants being accepted.
The University of Sydney, for example, will only take a Year 12 graduate with a University Admission Index of 98.2. Medical science courses only need a 95.45 mark!
According to this website:
Becoming a Vet : Veterinary Science : Animal Welfare : Doctor : Education : Web Wombat
Don't you think this is unsurprising? There is obviously a greater demand for medicine students than vets, so don't you think it's only natural that vet entry would be far difficult because of this low demand?
is this relevant to the question? "after medicine/dentistry, what is the next most difficult course to enter?" note the word "ENTER". more evidence that vet is def easier to ENTER since u def wouldnt be able to pass the UMAT with that level of comprehension.
When I read this topic I automatically thought of veterinary science and wondered whether it would be the next most difficult course to enter. I thought otherwise, and thought that it would actually be before medicine/dentistry (ie. harder to gain entry). I apologize if my posts are slightly off topic.
in regards to ur comments, its just like saying people at working at MacDonalds have to clean (dental polishing/scaling), know how to make soft serves, flip burgers and fill up drinks. and that makes them all purpose which is according to u better.
So you're making all of this in relation to the people working at MacDonalds. Vets can be thought of people who can make soft serves, flip burgers and fill up drinks (ie. multi-purpose). Thus, doctors can only make soft serves?
do u know y there isnt an all purpose doctor? its because humans are wayyyyyy more complicated/intelligent than animals. altho im not too sure anymore.
again, irrelevant to the original topic. but broader knowledge maybe, more knowledge? definitely not.
srsly, humans are way more complicated than u think. emotions, race, culture, religion etc etc. u think they are irrelevant when treating some1?
More intelligent we may be, but emotions, race, culture and religion are irrelevant when you're doing surgery. Humans share common anatomical features with many other animals hence animals are just as complicated when it comes to humans when it comes to treating them.
I understand that this topic is "AFTER" medicine/dentistry, what's the hardest, so I think I'll stop typing now since I'm talking about "BEFORE".