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Tattoodguy i too support the Iraqi resistance (if that's what you are getting at) but beheadings are a brutal and old fashion style of excuting. Also even though the people being killed are there to make good money at the expensicve of the Iraqi people and aid the Imperialist they are not army and do not pose any direct threat to Iraqi people so i dont see why they should be killed like normal soldiers. The terriost do not take care of capitaves and do not release private contractors, the only people needed to be taken prison is army personal and if need be to excuted it should be in a humane way and no televised. The terriost follow no code (due to religous beliefs)

I think your mistaken on who to support. Terriosm backed by religious fundamentalism gets more coverage on western tv (thats why they behead to gain tv coverage). While the everday resistance fighters who fight for national liberation rarely get shown and if get shown they get potrayed as terriost.
 

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Sarah168 said:
A comedic performance is a poor excuse(of you could call it an excuse) for harsh insensitivity toward a fellow human being's fate. There is a line drawn for all human beings. He crossed that line.



It's open to interpretation (a point that you recognised before the edit). Anyway, that line is far from being the clear divide that you imply.
 
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There's a difference between resisting the occupation and doing what these people are doing..

The terrorists are out there to kill ANY americans in iraq because america attacked, What if when the terrorists attacked america america retaliated by beheading every muslim person they can find.

Your problem is that you're not using the same mentality for both situations, yes if your aggressor is bigger than you you do have to use different methods of fighting them.. but simply trying to demoralise them by killing their civilians? That's the same mentality as the americans had with hiroshima.
 

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I'm not condoning the beheading, but don't you think if the Coalition of the stupid wasn't in there we wouldn't be there in the first place. It shows the government has no dignity, to let that guy get beheaded because the government's are too gutless to get out of a country that had no right to be there. Removing Saddam did not fix the problem, it made it worse, it created a power vacuum and now there are heaps of terrorist groups vying for power, the Western world sux, were racist and greedy, and there is atleast three more years of that for us.
 

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Says little jimmy from behind his computer wearing his expensive clothes.

All people in all cultures are racist and greedy.

YES if the coalition wasn't there, there would be no beheadings AGAINST the coalition, however there would still be beheadings...
 

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oh, and the iraqis do???
They dont need to either, but they are forced to do it, because they are povos with no proper equipment, fighting against the strongest nation in the world.

They have to get the message across that they are crazy etc, they have no other choice. Ofcourse i dont agree with it but im just saying that this is how things are and there is no use crying about it.

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Perhaps it may be the mentality of one who knows of no other way to be heard by the world at large?
 

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It shows the government has no dignity, to let that guy get beheaded because the government's are too gutless to get out of a country that had no right to be there
Sure enough the Imperialist had no right to be there but they shouldnt remove there forces because of terriost acts. Thats rather weak because you are applying that we should fight wars agaisnt people that are not going to do such things. They should remove forces and make it clear they remove not due to terriost action but for humanity and denounce invasion as such.

haven't these people heard of protesting?
There have been many protest, but protesting can only go so far. In their situation to keep autonomy they will have to use Militant force.
 

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The Coalition is all too willing to paint the Iraqis that resist the occupation as terrorists. No doubt there certainly is a percentage of known terrorists now operating in Iraq going after American businesses and such, but I think the majority of the resistance are just regular Iraqis fighting to free their country from occupation.

The beheading of prisoners is needed to get the message across, the French Revolutionaries employed such a method to save the Revolution and sure enough it gets the message across. The French were prone to invasion from all sides, the last thing they needed was an internal revolt.

Although somewhat differing from the situation in Iraq, when you're desparate it needs to be done. Also, calling the Iraqi beheaders barbaric is just being culturally ignorant. The Iraqis have lived in a society of brutal murders for a long time and they won't forget it just because Americans are doing the killing now.

If anyone does Society and Culture they'll know what I mean, I've forgotten the exact term, but we can't judge the actions of the Iraqi Resistance by our own ethics and morals.

Victory to the Iraqis.
 

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leetom said:
The Coalition is all too willing to paint the Iraqis that resist the occupation as terrorists. No doubt there certainly is a percentage of known terrorists now operating in Iraq going after American businesses and such, but I think the majority of the resistance are just regular Iraqis fighting to free their country from occupation.

The beheading of prisoners is needed to get the message across, the French Revolutionaries employed such a method to save the Revolution and sure enough it gets the message across. The French were prone to invasion from all sides, the last thing they needed was an internal revolt.

Although somewhat differing from the situation in Iraq, when you're desparate it needs to be done. Also, calling the Iraqi beheaders barbaric is just being culturally ignorant. The Iraqis have lived in a society of brutal murders for a long time and they won't forget it just because Americans are doing the killing now.

If anyone does Society and Culture they'll know what I mean, I've forgotten the exact term, but we can't judge the actions of the Iraqi Resistance by our own ethics and morals.

Victory to the Iraqis.

im speechless :)
 

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I think perhaps the americans should start cutting the heads off the terrorists, make them beg for mercy while they kill them video tape it and make sure all the terrorists know! :)
 

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Not-That-Bright said:
I think perhaps the americans should start cutting the heads off the terrorists, make them beg for mercy while they kill them video tape it and make sure all the terrorists know! :)

:uhhuh::uhhuh:
 

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Iraqi beheaders barbaric is just being culturally ignorant. The Iraqis have lived in a society of brutal murders for a long time and they won't forget it just because Americans are doing the killing now.
Execution is universal. The have acces to other means of execution. We can criticise these reactionaires from any angle.

By the way is that picture of Mao a joke or are you a Maoist.
 

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The Iraqis started lopping off heads in response to the humiliation that Iraqi prisoners were subjected too. What would you prefer, beheading, or made to form a naked triangle on top of your comrades?

I would prefer the rusty knife. Of course you don't just take it, you kick and scream and bite like a mad dog until they are forced to shoot you.

Comrade nathan, I'm not really a maoist or a deep communist, but I admire Mao, Fidel and Ho Chi Minh for the struggles they have led their people through.
 

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leetom said:
The beheading of prisoners is needed to get the message across, the French Revolutionaries employed such a method to save the Revolution and sure enough it gets the message across. The French were prone to invasion from all sides, the last thing they needed was an internal revolt.

Also, calling the Iraqi beheaders barbaric is just being culturally ignorant. The Iraqis have lived in a society of brutal murders for a long time and they won't forget it just because Americans are doing the killing now.

Victory to the Iraqis.
The beheading of prisoners is not necessary...
I called the Iraqi beheaders babaric, because they are,beheading someone is a uncivilised thing to do...
 

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Not-That-Bright said:
I think perhaps the americans should start cutting the heads off the terrorists, make them beg for mercy while they kill them video tape it and make sure all the terrorists know! :)
I wouldn't put it past Bush... I wonder how many innocent Iraqis have already been killed by the Americans over there?
 

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