EmperorHirohito
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What a lame inventions, you should be ashamed for creating this thread. I mean is there anything to proud about inventing quilt or soap?
Well if soap wasnt invented, u'l be one filthy, stinky little thing.EmperorHirohito said:What a lame inventions, you should be ashamed for creating this thread. I mean is there anything to proud about inventing quilt or soap?
well, if you come to think about it......... we wont have most of the stuff we have now, if these muslim scientists didnt invent the basics for us. In some way they are responsible for the creation of lots of stuff, that we use these days, and you cant deny that fact.Serius said:interesting article though, i love reading about history. I was just a little irritated at the 'muslim' slant on it. Cant we just make it a list of interesting inventions and how they came to pass? My original post highlighted the fact that if we are going to make lists based on cultures and religions then muslims are going to come out looking like apes.
Are you implying that people are dirty and stank before muslims invented soap? All Roman settlements throughout Europe, North Africa and the Middle East always include a Roman Bath, unlike Islamic once a year ritual bath in arabian desert. The English city of Bath was founded 500years before Islam was founded and named after Roman Bath which I visited last year. Aromas and perfume were widely used even during the times of Jesus and regularly mentioned in the Bible. You can keep your insiginificant invention of Soap and Quilt and I can use Shower Gel, Bubble Bath and cozy blanket made in China.MaNiElla said:Well if soap wasnt invented, u'l be one filthy, stinky little thing.
What ive come to realise is that the groundwork for science gets done, if muslims hadnt have invented that stuff someone else would have not long after. the real people responsable for the creation of alot of the stuff we use today and you cant deny that fact. Your logic is flawed because it would be like me crediting everything we use today to the caveman who invented the wheel, or saying that Ford should be accredited with inventing the BMW.well, if you come to think about it......... we wont have most of the stuff we have now, if these muslim scientists didnt invent the basics for us. In some way they are responsible for the creation of lots of stuff, that we use these days, and you cant deny that fact.
Plus this is a hobbies forum, and what if the person likes to read about people of his kind?? whats it to you? he's got the whole right to post this, its non-of-your-business !!
yeah well there were a few reasons why i posted itNot-That-Bright said:He's trying to reconcile his religious beliefs with science by showing that the religious (in particularly muslims) can still be scientific. He's also probably trying to tell us this same thing while showing off muslim achievements a little.
i think its an improvement on european thoughts 1000 years ago; my research on medieval colonial history has shown that europeans thought any non europeans/non christians as essentially infidellic and sub human- i read a charter where James I was saying "[it] is not inhuman nor uncharitable to kill them and reduce their misery and desolation" referring to the natives in North AmericaNot-That-Bright said:You're right, but I have to wonder why someone would consider people all of one religion to somehow be inadequate? The best answer I can think of is that it's merely be a continuation of the reinforcement of belief in european (white, christian, male) superiority over the rest of the world. I didn't say you were a racist or that your comments were in particular, but it definately smells like it and I'd say for good reason.
i'd say not as many as 'western' ppl these days, although i would say that that has to do more with politics, economics and social issues rather than genes and religion as has been suggested in the NCAPFact is there have been genius muslims.
Fact is there still are.
Fact is there have been many genius hindu's.
Fact is there still are.
to the people above who say that, i'd ask:people above said:there are no muslim inventions that are current
The west is imho the dominant and greatest culture in the world, but this hasn't occured in isolation - We have borrowed, stolen, re-invented the ideas of non-westerners and incorporated them into our lifestyles.
Ford didn't invent the car.Serius said:,just like if ford hadnt invented the car some other bloke would have a few years later.
If you're talking about deletion, I wouldn't have deleted this thread in NCAP.5) i chose the hobbies section because i know here it will stay for a while longer than at any other section- forward thinking aye?
Yea this is why I consider it 'racism', perhaps such remarks are directly made towards X religion - But I always like to wonder why. I agree with your assessment that it's probably the same thing sort of thinking as years before...i think its an improvement on european thoughts 1000 years ago; my research on medieval colonial history has shown that europeans thought any non europeans/non christians as essentially infidellic and sub human- i read a charter where James I was saying "[it] is not inhuman nor uncharitable to kill them and reduce their misery and desolation" referring to the natives in North America
I think more of underlying social/economic principles.depends on how we define culture and "western culture"; i think western culture shows great potential to rise up to many a challenges it will face in the future
BritneySpears said:Are you implying that people are dirty and stank before muslims invented soap? All Roman settlements throughout Europe, North Africa and the Middle East always include a Roman Bath, unlike Islamic once a year ritual bath in arabian desert. The English city of Bath was founded 500years before Islam was founded and named after Roman Bath which I visited last year. Aromas and perfume were widely used even during the times of Jesus and regularly mentioned in the Bible. You can keep your insiginificant invention of Soap and Quilt and I can use Shower Gel, Bubble Bath and cozy blanket made in China.
dunno where u got that from. the Australian catholic university found that nearly a 1/3 of people they surveyed in schools thought the same way as you, although in your case, i dont think ill change you...unlike Islamic once a year ritual bath in arabian desert
5 Washing and bathing are religious requirements for Muslims, which is perhaps why they perfected the recipe for soap which we still use today. The ancient Egyptians had soap of a kind, as did the Romans who used it more as a pomade. But it was the Arabs who combined vegetable oils with sodium hydroxide and aromatics such as thyme oil. One of the Crusaders' most striking characteristics, to Arab nostrils, was that they did not wash. Shampoo was introduced to England by a Muslim who opened Mahomed's Indian Vapour Baths on Brighton seafront in 1759 and was appointed Shampooing Surgeon to Kings George IV and William IV.
1) i meant the refresh cycle, like in the non school section- a new thread today is on page 5 on day two lol, similar with NCAP, no one posts here- except for things that will spark curiosity for all times to comeNot-That-Bright said:If you're talking about deletion, I wouldn't have deleted this thread in NCAP.
Yea this is why I consider it 'racism', perhaps such remarks are directly made towards X religion - But I always like to wonder why.
1) i thought that was a confucian saying?WSSM said:1- "A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step" a Westner's saying; how right he was.
2- 50 years ago a western scientist discovered thats oceans neva meet and each ocean has a different salt/water density, perhaps he read the Kuraan the Islamic book ,because the Muslims knew that 1400 years ago...
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