Atheism - Discussion thread (4 Viewers)

[CecilyMare]

Relationships are based on Happiness... Not love.

Not everybody is a hedonist.

 

[Phoenix Fury]

Religion is the absence of logic and the denial of what should be common sense.

 

[Name_Taken]

Isn't living "for" your God so you can go to heaven inherently in your own self-interest? You have an idol. An atheist doesn't have any.

And you know what? Shocking as that may sound, not having something to worship is okay.

Heaven is not the goal. Following God is not out of my desire to save my own behiend.

The goal is to live a morally righteous life, to love God and to glorify Him in this life.

Heaven is the reward for a sincere attempt at accomplishing this selfless goal.

It is my love for Him and faith in His rules as being what is ultimately best for me which causes me to follow Him, and not to set my own agenda.

Athiests are their own idol, becuase they set their own agenda and because all their actions are selfishly ultimately aimed at promoting their own interest.

 

[ComingUpForAir]

Heaven is not the goal. Following God is not out of my desire to save my own behiend.

The goal is to live a morally righteous life, to love God and to glorify Him in this life.

Heaven is the reward for a sincere attempt at accomplishing this selfless goal.

It is my love for Him and faith in His rules as being what is ultimately best for me which causes me to follow Him, and not to set my own agenda.

Athiests are their own idol, becuase they set their own agenda and because all their actions are selfishly ultimately aimed at promoting their own interest.

What would you do if your God asked you to kill your children/family/freinds?

 

[annabackwards]

Heaven is not the goal. Following God is not out of my desire to save my own behiend.

The goal is to live a morally righteous life, to love God and to glorify Him in this life.

Heaven is the reward for a sincere attempt at accomplishing this selfless goal.

It is my love for Him and faith in His rules as being what is ultimately best for me which causes me to follow Him, and not to set my own agenda.

Athiests are their own idol, becuase they set their own agenda and because all their actions are selfishly ultimately aimed at promoting their own interest.

And you're selfishly ultimately aiming promoting your own interest - to "live a morally righteous life, to love God and to glorify Him in this life" AKA gain happiness through achieving your interests.

Humans, like any other animal will act out of self interest - whether that be helping others to be happy with one's self or robbing a bank - so get over it. It's not something only athiests do so get off your high horse and stop reverting back to your original argument when it has been refuted many times already.

Once more, acting out of self interest =/= immoral.

 

[Name_Taken]

And you're selfishly ultimately aiming promoting your own interest - to "live a morally righteous life, to love God and to glorify Him in this life" AKA gain happiness through achieving your interests.

Humans, like any other animal will act out of self interest - whether that be helping others to be happy with one's self or robbing a bank - so get over it. It's not something only athiests do so get off your high horse and stop reverting back to your original argument when it has been refuted many times already.

Once more, acting out of self interest =/= immoral.

How is devoting all my efforts to another and submitting to His rules in any way selfishly promoting my own interests?

Acting in self interest is not immoral its acting not in the interest of God, which is immoral.

 

[Kwayera]

How is devoting all my efforts to another and submitting to His rules in any way selfishly promoting my own interests?

Acting in self interest is not immoral its acting not in the interest of God, which is immoral.

And you claim to know what the interest of God is?

Lol, how arrogant.

 

[zaxmacks]

The goal is to live a morally righteous life, to love God and to glorify Him in this life.

Heaven is the reward for a sincere attempt at accomplishing this selfless goal.

Heaven is the reward for believing in Jesus. Not being, or trying to be, 'good'.

 

[philphie]

How is devoting all my efforts to another and submitting to His rules in any way selfishly promoting my own interests?

Acting in self interest is not immoral its acting not in the interest of God, which is immoral.

so your approach is either you're with us or you're not? that all those good people out there, that do good things who aren't religious are sinners?

Heaven is not the goal. Following God is not out of my desire to save my own behiend.

The goal is to live a morally righteous life, to love God and to glorify Him in this life.

Heaven is the reward for a sincere attempt at accomplishing this selfless goal.

It is my love for Him and faith in His rules as being what is ultimately best for me which causes me to follow Him, and not to set my own agenda.

Athiests are their own idol, becuase they set their own agenda and because all their actions are selfishly ultimately aimed at promoting their own interest.

so you would not care no matter how many good deeds you have done but fro some reason you were destined for hell? just so long as you did it to love God? and might i ask why do you love God? because he is the creator? let's say if he did not create but is as great as he is, would you still worship him?

 

[annabackwards]

How is devoting all my efforts to another and submitting to His rules in any way selfishly promoting my own interests?

Acting in self interest is not immoral its acting not in the interest of God, which is immoral.

Easy, but answer this before i answer so you can't say i'm assuming anything. Why do you do it?

And you claim to know what the interest of God is?

Lol, how arrogant.

+1

 

[CecilyMare]

everybody please stop arguing against one helpless christian he isn't going to start a revolution or anything and i mean even if he does, it's better than some other people here who worship scientists and are most likely looking forward to making an entire new additional range of satanic weapons to the collection we already have that we use to kill Afghanistan's women and children AND SAVE THE REFUGEES


God i sound like chris crocker. at least my aims are better intentioned.

 

[bio_nut]

Science also does a lot of good, you stupid bitch.

 

[Will Shakespear]

everybody please stop arguing against one helpless christian he isn't going to start a revolution or anything and i mean even if he does, it's better than some other people here who worship scientists and are most likely looking forward to making an entire new additional range of satanic weapons to the collection we already have that we use to kill Afghanistan's women and children AND SAVE THE REFUGEES


God i sound like chris crocker. at least my aims are better intentioned.

no one worships scientists, lol

just try becoming one n u'll find out

 

[Kwayera]

everybody please stop arguing against one helpless christian he isn't going to start a revolution or anything and i mean even if he does, it's better than some other people here who worship scientists and are most likely looking forward to making an entire new additional range of satanic weapons to the collection we already have that we use to kill Afghanistan's women and children AND SAVE THE REFUGEES


God i sound like chris crocker. at least my aims are better intentioned.

You're either a really unfunny troll or really stupid.

 

[Name_Taken]

And you claim to know what the interest of God is?

Lol, how arrogant.

Maybe I should have clarified; what is immoral is prmoting your own agenda above your devotion to God, and the following of His rules.

As a Christian there are plenty of wholesome things to which you can devote your life (art, research and charity for example). None of these are immoral inunto themselves ofc. But the individual is doing wrong when they persue these things out of their own self interest. At all times, you should follow Gods rules and your ultimate goal should be the glorifying of God through your accomplishments and efforts.

God has made His rules for us quite clear through the scriptures.

 

[Kwayera]

At all times, you should follow Gods rules and your ultimate goal should be the glorifying of God through your accomplishments and efforts.

...for your own self-interest.

 

[SeCKSiiMiNh]

Becuase you're following YOUR morals. These are the rules you have decided for yourself, you're still refusing to submit or accept a higher authority. You're still in a state of self-worship.

So what if the bible states something that you don't neccessarily agree with?

 

[Name_Taken]

Easy, but answer this before i answer so you can't say i'm assuming anything. Why do you do it?

Because I love Him <3

I have enough faith in Him to know what is best for me and to ensure that no harm will fall upon me or others as a result of fufilling His will on Earth.

Your turn

 

[Name_Taken]

So what if the bible states something that you don't neccessarily agree with?

Lol and it doesn't?

Don't you think I might be having more fun, getting stoned out of my head and screwing myself senseless (like quite a lot of people our age are doing) than I might have reading the Bible at home? Lol, I'm only human

In almost all cases, temptation is more appealing and immediately gratifying to the individual than doing what is right. Faith gives you the strength to say "no" to temptation.

 

[SeCKSiiMiNh]

Because I love Him <3

I have enough faith in Him to know what is best for me and to ensure that no harm will fall upon me or others as a result of fufilling His will on Earth.

Your turn

So gay