Yeah, what the fuck happened to the Liberal party?Rafy said:
They're almost in as much disarray as the Republican party in America, though perhaps without quite so many lunatics (now Labour seems to host the fucking religious crazies).
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They're almost in as much disarray as the Republican party in America, though perhaps without quite so many lunatics (now Labour seems to host the fucking religious crazies).
Basically: Nationals and a few Liberals have said "fuck off" to Turnbull for the second time this week and voted against their party, Julie Bishop is abysmal at her job as Deputy Opposition, Turnbull has a lower approval rating than Julia Gillard (Deputy PM), and in this most recent event, like half the Liberals went against their party's official stance and refused to vote or expressed vocal dissent.blue_chameleon said:Rafy, is the content of that article able to be summarised/layman-ised?
It's from this sort of shit that some young new charismatic leader comes along to fix everything. Except that was meant to be Turnbull's job.
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The coalition leadership decided to support the Nation-building Funds Bill 2008 in the Senate.
Under party discipline, Coalition senators would have been expected to vote for the bill.
Only 5 did. Nationals and 2 Libs crossed the floor and voted against. Most Libs fleed the chamber and abstained.
While you do get the odd backbencher crossing the floor, yesterday most of the coalition's senate frontbench defied the official party position. Even Nick Minchin, the Leader of the Opposition in the Senate abstained.
Quite extraordinary.
Just a few days ago, Fiona Nash was sacked from the coalition shadow ministry for crossing the floor.
In yesterday's shambles because they merely abstained they'll be let off. That and Turnbull can hardly sack half his frontbench.
Under party discipline, Coalition senators would have been expected to vote for the bill.
Only 5 did. Nationals and 2 Libs crossed the floor and voted against. Most Libs fleed the chamber and abstained.
While you do get the odd backbencher crossing the floor, yesterday most of the coalition's senate frontbench defied the official party position. Even Nick Minchin, the Leader of the Opposition in the Senate abstained.
Quite extraordinary.
Just a few days ago, Fiona Nash was sacked from the coalition shadow ministry for crossing the floor.
In yesterday's shambles because they merely abstained they'll be let off. That and Turnbull can hardly sack half his frontbench.
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Amazing how this puff piece, which doesn't even affect the public, receives so many comments, yet the two previous stories about Labor economic policies don't even receive a mention. Needless to say that BoS is full of left-wing hippies and I'm quickly growing sick of it. :burn:
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About which part of my post?Trefoil said:
Seriously though, it's easy to become BoS disillusioned when you're even slightly right-wing. (Personally = centre-right... more centre
)You're about as centrist as the average pair of scissors.alexdore993 said:About which part of my post?
Seriously though, it's easy to become BoS disillusioned when you're even slightly right-wing. (Personally = centre-right... more centre
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What on earth do you classify as right-wing???
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John Howard, Malcolm Turnbull, Liberals, Republicans, Nazis, Peter Costello, John McCain, George Bush, Andrew Bolt... and on and on and on and on and on the list goes.spiny norman said:
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He's not exactly young, but point made. There's certainly a chance.moll. said:
Problem with Rudd is, he has no values. Hopefully this will be his downfall, the irony would be too sweet.
Anywho, a few of you said I was being unreasonable when I claimed that Kevin 24/7's staff find him unbearable to be around, then came this revelation;
Staff flee 24/7 Rudd regime
THE pace of the 24/7 Rudd Government has taken its toll, with staff walking out in droves.
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has lost about 40percent of new appointments to his private office since last December, and his deputy Julia Gillard has lost nearly 50percent.
About a quarter of ministerial staffers appointed between December last year and October have fled, figures provided to Liberal frontbencher Senator Michael Ronaldson reveal.
"At a time when the international financial markets are in free-fall, there is a complete lack of stability and leadership in Kevin Rudd's own office and ministerial wing," said the shadow special minister of state.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/staff-flee-247-rudd-regime/2008/12/06/1228257383096.htmlPrime Minister Kevin Rudd has lost about 40percent of new appointments to his private office since last December, and his deputy Julia Gillard has lost nearly 50percent.
About a quarter of ministerial staffers appointed between December last year and October have fled, figures provided to Liberal frontbencher Senator Michael Ronaldson reveal.
"At a time when the international financial markets are in free-fall, there is a complete lack of stability and leadership in Kevin Rudd's own office and ministerial wing," said the shadow special minister of state.
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Re: Australian Politics - Broken Promises
Broken Promise 1
Global Warming - Australia to lead the world.
Not any more it's not.
There's a lesson for Rudd in this; don't give promises you can't keep. This was bound to happen; after all, stupid policy promises, made in the heat of the moment and without proper deliberation, lead to broken promises. (Obama's Iraq policy's next, no doubt.)
It's little suprise though, and the headlines speak for themselves. (For more info see my previous post in this thread on the conference in Poland). Could Penny Wong be finally realising the futality of her global warming crusade? Or maybe she caught on to the fact that the 'globe [is] still refusing to warm'.
Coastguard and homeland security.
And another broken promise, another day in office for Kevin Rudd.
I might add, that both broken promises have been broken for good reason. They weren't comletely rational promises to make; yet the fact that Rudd had to betray the mandate on which he was elected, speaks volumes about him and his rhetoric-but-no-action type of politics.
Broken Promise 1
Global Warming - Australia to lead the world.
Not any more it's not.
There's a lesson for Rudd in this; don't give promises you can't keep. This was bound to happen; after all, stupid policy promises, made in the heat of the moment and without proper deliberation, lead to broken promises. (Obama's Iraq policy's next, no doubt.)
It's little suprise though, and the headlines speak for themselves. (For more info see my previous post in this thread on the conference in Poland). Could Penny Wong be finally realising the futality of her global warming crusade? Or maybe she caught on to the fact that the 'globe [is] still refusing to warm'.
Hot air but little else in global climate talks- The Age
Kevin Rudd cools on carbon targets - The Australian
Rudd dobbed himself into dilemma - Sydney Morning Herald
Broken Promise 2Kevin Rudd cools on carbon targets - The Australian
Rudd dobbed himself into dilemma - Sydney Morning Herald
Coastguard and homeland security.
And another broken promise, another day in office for Kevin Rudd.
PM ditches coastguard for stronger Customs to fight people smuggling
The West Australian
"The Rudd Government has dumped its election promise for a US-style coastguard and homeland security department in favour of an enhanced Customs service to combat the resurgence in people smuggling.
The backdown, in a response to a key security review, came a day after the arrival of a fifth boatload of suspected asylum seekers off the WA coast embarrassed authorities and raised further questions about the Government’s immigration policies."
More to come soon, no doubt.The West Australian
"The Rudd Government has dumped its election promise for a US-style coastguard and homeland security department in favour of an enhanced Customs service to combat the resurgence in people smuggling.
The backdown, in a response to a key security review, came a day after the arrival of a fifth boatload of suspected asylum seekers off the WA coast embarrassed authorities and raised further questions about the Government’s immigration policies."
I might add, that both broken promises have been broken for good reason. They weren't comletely rational promises to make; yet the fact that Rudd had to betray the mandate on which he was elected, speaks volumes about him and his rhetoric-but-no-action type of politics.
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Re: Australian Politics - Broken Promises from State Labor
These guys, really, just need to be kicked out of office.
It's no surprise that they've broken promises. In fact, it's gotten to the point now, where the only surprise is when they actually follow through with something.
The time has most certainly come for Rees (after Iemma and Carr); what a disgrace. The first of many, many Labor NSW State government broken promises...
These guys, really, just need to be kicked out of office.
It's no surprise that they've broken promises. In fact, it's gotten to the point now, where the only surprise is when they actually follow through with something.
The time has most certainly come for Rees (after Iemma and Carr); what a disgrace. The first of many, many Labor NSW State government broken promises...
Chock-a-block: state's jails bursting at seams
"A new jail every two years - that is what's required to house NSW's prisoners, write Matthew Moore, Edmund Tadros and Malcolm Knox.
PRISONER numbers in NSW jails have exceeded 10,000 and experts predict the NSW Government will breach its promise to slash reoffending rates.
Experts say Government forecasts of 300 extra prisoners each year means NSW will need to build a new jail every two years to handle the consequences of its hard-line "lock-'em-up" policies.
At a cost of about $73,000 a prisoner a year, the Department of Corrective Services will have to find about $170 million extra each year from 2015 to run its jails, which by then will hold about 12,300 inmates."
Here's a little reminder about the performance of NSW state Labor, for those who have forgotten."A new jail every two years - that is what's required to house NSW's prisoners, write Matthew Moore, Edmund Tadros and Malcolm Knox.
PRISONER numbers in NSW jails have exceeded 10,000 and experts predict the NSW Government will breach its promise to slash reoffending rates.
Experts say Government forecasts of 300 extra prisoners each year means NSW will need to build a new jail every two years to handle the consequences of its hard-line "lock-'em-up" policies.
At a cost of about $73,000 a prisoner a year, the Department of Corrective Services will have to find about $170 million extra each year from 2015 to run its jails, which by then will hold about 12,300 inmates."
State of chaos drags us down
"NICE bridge. Shame about the city. In fact, Sydney is sliding from a joke to a disaster, and it's taking the rest of us with it.
Not since Joan Kirner in Victoria have we seen a state led as catastrophically as is NSW, and Sydney is just the tawdry measure of its astonishing decline.
Correction: NSW Labor makes Kirner's lot look a model of propriety. At least her ministers, numbers men, hacks and faction heavies, were honest - and fully clothed - as they drove Victoria into the ground.
They weren't murdering each other, dancing half-naked in Parliament, molesting boys, sleeping with developers bearing gifts or walking over the bodies of men shot just 90 minutes earlier."
from Andrew Bolt.
"NICE bridge. Shame about the city. In fact, Sydney is sliding from a joke to a disaster, and it's taking the rest of us with it.
Not since Joan Kirner in Victoria have we seen a state led as catastrophically as is NSW, and Sydney is just the tawdry measure of its astonishing decline.
Correction: NSW Labor makes Kirner's lot look a model of propriety. At least her ministers, numbers men, hacks and faction heavies, were honest - and fully clothed - as they drove Victoria into the ground.
They weren't murdering each other, dancing half-naked in Parliament, molesting boys, sleeping with developers bearing gifts or walking over the bodies of men shot just 90 minutes earlier."
from Andrew Bolt.
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Correction; alexdore993 skews so right it's blinding. BoS is still religiously left-wing.John Oliver said:
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I think you're the moron.Trefoil said:
'Religiously left-wing' - in this phrase, 'religiously' is an adjective, meaning:
scrupulously: with extreme conscientiousness; "he came religiously every morning at 8 o'clock"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
Look at a dictionary before you make a fool of yourself next time, Trefoil.wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn