Burn a flag :) (2 Viewers)

[funnybunny]

Why burn the flag? because its controversial? because its cool?
This isn't even a worthwhile arguement.

Well, it's obvious you havent even read a single post on this thread. Next time you post, take the time to read some of the posts before you actually post.

 

[tWiStEdD]

oh i did; and it all frustrated me more then than it does now.
kid (funnybunny), if you can give me one good reason for this to be debated or even one good reason to burn the flag then we'll continue our ever so interesting discourse upon your terms.

on another note, this is how most people on here argue, as I pointed out. Obviously I've not read the other posts because to you I seem misinformed. On that note, I am revoking my previous offer and replacing it with a simple "fuck you, you douche." I hope you have a lovely day. You won a meaningless arguement... Chalk one up for 'us' in the us v the world column, congratulations!

JESUS. What you quoted was a quote itself. Read all the way back and it was contextually appropriate. So, Senor Douche, if you read the post itself (not the bit in the pretty grey box) you'll notice that I said something else contextually appropriate (though you're likely to miss the logic in that too.

I can't believe I fell for another lame BoS arguement provoker!!! *shoots self*

 

[ihavenothing]

What the fuck is wrong with you? You want to talk about sexual pevertedness you might wanna take a good look at the Catholic church, and the way it treats its 10year old alterboys. At least Mohammad wasnt a faggot hypocrit, unlike his catholic counterparts who refuse to admit gays into their church yet sexually abuse young boys. I dont mean to paint all catholics with the same brush far from it im just over exaggerating a point. You want to look at all the bad things Christians have done and the list is endless, in the last 100 years alone you have Acts of genocide committed by Hitler's Germany against the Jews (a staunch Protestant state at the time) Acts of Genocide by Croatians against Bosnian Muslims. Acts of Genocide by Yugoslavia against Kosavar Muslims. the slaugher of Lebanese Muslims by Lebanese Christian Militias. You can nit pick at anything and find things that are wrong with it and injustices done by any one group. To criticise a 1400year old religion out of context is pure stupidity. if you dont think that morals and ethics have changed in over one thousand years you are an idiot.

On the point of freedom of speech the west can hardly take the moral high ground. why is it that questioning the extent of the halocaust is deemed anti-semetic and a crime against humanity and can land you in jail in 6 Western countries, yet when someone ridicules a religion and disrespects it, it is allowed as an expression of free speech? Is this evidence of an great pillar of the western world or simply something that highlights the islamaphobia, double standards. and racism inherent in western countries?

(David Irving a revisionist Historian jailed for 10years in Austria for denying the extent of the halocaust in a speech in 1984, President of Iran condemned world wide for questioning the number of people who were killed)

No one is taking the moral high ground here, I am a practising homosexual and is not religious and your statements expose how insular and how can you scold me for being Islamophobic (which is perfectly acceptable due that any ideology can be analysed discussed and criticized as religion is only an idea not something that is the natural state of a person) when you are blatanly using inflammatory terms which are discriminatory against homosexuals.

Anti-Semitism and Holocaust Denial is discriminatory due to it being racism, as the Jews are a race and whilst Denial being a crime may be a little too extreme, there still are reports of many Islamists making claims that not only the Holocaust never happened, but that 9/11 was orchestrated by the Jews as a conspiracy against Muslims. However ridiculous that may seem, no charges were laid, even in Iran where freedom of speech is non-existant and many of these Islamic leaders are against freedom of speech against dead prophets who may have never existed in books that are deemed "holy". There's some double standards, innit.

As for the list of things Christians have done against Muslims just highlights the stupid things people do for religion and morals and ethics, which are plain rubbish as judged from books which are over a thousand years old and have little in common with our modern lives. I believe the world would be a much better place if no one ever claimed god spoke to these Prophets in all of the Abrahamistic (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) religions and people follow like the Pied Piper to a reward that is NOT justified.

Western countries are not so much "Christian" these days they have gone through an important separation of church and state to make sure the dogmatic crap from the main religion would have to make everyone else's lives a misery, by forcing them to follow things that they do not believe in. That is how we allow dickheads like you, into this country and on the other hand, in many Islamic countries either you are not allowed to practise any other religion or belief or you have little rights and are a dhimmi.

So in the bottom line, get off your high horse and stop demanding that we bow down to your religion and try to blur racism with Islamophobia.

PS.

RELIGION = SHIT

 

[tWiStEdD]

Religion has a role. Focus on the topic at hand. Just because it doesnt condone what you do (and nor do I) doesn't make it shit.
P.S. I'm not religious.
P.P.S You argue like a douche.

This thread is about flag burning, not Islam. Go to the appropriate thread for that. Or perhaps make a new thread, ihavenothing.

Grow up.

 

[ihavenothing]

Religion has a role. Focus on the topic at hand. Just because it doesnt condone what you do (and nor do I) doesn't make it shit.
P.S. I'm not religious.
P.P.S You argue like a douche.

This thread is about flag burning, not Islam. Go to the appropriate thread for that. Or perhaps make a new thread, ihavenothing.

Grow up.

Darling, I only argue like a bitch.

My statements about religion only had to stem from iranian_rocket's attack on me for "being racist" towards Islam, but had to inform him that it also is a political movement that shows double standards in the Islamic world against freedom of speech issues such as flag burning and cartoon drawing of dead people.

 

[Mountain.Dew]

Back on topic - where will this stall be? Are the stalls at USYD numbered?

it will be interesting to see the number of stalls at the USYD O-week selling burning flag kits. it will be MORE interesting seeing the number of kits sold as well.

only time will tell.

 

[Mountain.Dew]

i must say, there were no flag burning kits around...except for "Death to Imperalism!" - ish posters sporting the Australian and American flag burning that was on display on many left-wing political clubs at the stalls.

speaks volumes...or does it?

 

[funnybunny]

if you can give me one good reason for this to be debated or

How about ppl dont agree on burning the flag?

how about intelligent discussion on why it happens and trying to come to terms with that

Why it happens?...well, how about, freedom of expression

Obviously I've not read the other posts because to you I seem misinformed.

Not knowing the purpose of this thread and why we're debating the whole issue...i would say that you are not misinformed, but simply an idiot?...oh maybe it's just "contextually appropriate" that in a forum, you dont know what you're posting or even why you're posting at all.

It (flag burning) comes up in the media once and suddenly its the biggest thing since iPods!

Well..believe it or not, that is how society & the media works.

when you are blatanly using inflammatory term

And you weren't?

 

[scarybunny]

2 days at o-week and not one flag-burning kit in sight.

looks like you'll all have to buy your flags and matches separately. oh noes!

 

[Captain Gh3y]

All you need to do is ask for your flag burning kit with a copy of Green Left Weekly instead of the flag.

 

[malkin86]

or 'Che Guevara merchandise burning kits'...

 

[withoutaface]

Me and Schroedinger went round the the Libs, the Jews and the socialists, asking them all if they had Palestinian flag burning kits.

None did

 

[Mountain.Dew]

2 days at o-week and not one flag-burning kit in sight.

looks like you'll all have to buy your flags and matches separately. oh noes!

*SHOCK! HORROR!* MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH HAVE BEEN SUPPRESSED!

 

[aussiebogan]

Hello All.
Sorry, I have not been posting recently, as I have been attending High School. I believe those misguided students intending to sell flag burning kits have come around, and realised the true Aussie spirit, and decided not to go ahead. These are true aussies, who have realised their mistakes and, i hope, they now intend to dedicate their time, as I have, in protecting and promoting the true Aussie spirit.

If I disagree with you, you're probably wrong.

Hello Withoutaface.
I hope that you will also (if you have not already) embrace true Aussie values and give everyone a fair go, and not judge them on their ideas, but on their contribution.

Thankyou for taking the time to reading my post.

 

[hiphophooray123]

There's nothing pathetic about Freedom of Speech. If you think otherwise, you're a cocksucker.
.

yes there is


your a cocksucker

and a useless troll

bye

 

[HotShot]

aussiebogan is class... :rofl:

 

[stainmepink]

why a special flag burning kit? can't you just burn a flag by using a lighter? what a scam, and for 5 dollars each.

 

[hiphophooray123]

aussiebogan is class... :rofl:

you have a shit sense of humour

 

[HotShot]

you have a shit sense of humour

..... yeh ur gud mate...

 

[hiphophooray123]

cheers mate.