do you feel you have ever been treatred differently based on your religious beliefs? (1 Viewer)

discrimination in religion???

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Not-That-Bright

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Yea ok well the thread just asks 'have you ever been treated differently based on your religious beliefs'.

I think to be discriminated against you need to be deprived of something.
So you don't think that saying 'Muslims are rapists' is discrimination because they're being deprived of nothing?
 
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any predictions for the future then? if the present situations continue?
 

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So you don't think that saying 'Muslims are rapists' is discrimination because they're being deprived of nothing?
Well the constant claim that "Muslims are rapists" leads to discrimination. For instance going for a job or being rejected from social activity because of the thought that person is dangerous. So the person is being deprived of something due to the thoughts that suround that person's ethnic and religious beliefs.

I think the examples that people have been given are more like being snubed or picked on, rather then had any life chances or life pleasures take away from them due to religious or the lack of religious belief.
 

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Well the constant claim that "Muslims are rapists" leads to discrimination. For instance going for a job or being rejected from social activity because of the thought that person is dangerous. So the person is being deprived of something due to the thoughts that suround that person's ethnic and religious beliefs.
But if fewer people did it, it would not be descrimination? Do you not think that when people say believe that atheists are less moral than christians it affects them? In their relationships/in their job prospects?
 

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Re: do you feel you have ever been treatred differently based on your religious belie

Ok tempco, I hope you've noticed that I'm talking to Nathan - right? Did you also notice that I was having an argument with him over what 'discrimination' is? Do you think what you said contributed to the discussion at all?
 

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Re: do you feel you have ever been treatred differently based on your religious belie

:uhoh:

Whoops, my bad.
 

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Re: do you feel you have ever been treatred differently based on your religious belie

Nobody has to know your religious beliefs, they are meant to be kept private and personal and not institutionalised. Thats the idea of a secular society versus a theocratic one.
 

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Re: do you feel you have ever been treatred differently based on your religious belie

ihavenothing said:
Nobody has to know your religious beliefs, they are meant to be kept private and personal and not institutionalised. Thats the idea of a secular society versus a theocratic one.
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I don't believe in God or any of that. I often find that those who do act in a holier than thou attitude towards me.

But then in secret I think those with strong religious views are fuckwits. So it balances itself out. The only difference being I don't tell them that to their faces evreytime I see them, where as they do. =)
 

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Re: have you ever been treatred differently based on your religious beliefs? VOTE PLE

katie_tully said:
I don't believe in God or any of that. I often find that those who do act in a holier than thou attitude towards me.

But then in secret I think those with strong religious views are fuckwits. So it balances itself out. The only difference being I don't tell them that to their faces evreytime I see them, where as they do. =)
RElgious freaks are basically psyhopaths, they have become extremist because they can handle life, and feel if they turn to religion more deeply that will get inner strength and go to heaven.
 

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Not-That-Bright said:
But if fewer people did it, it would not be descrimination? Do you not think that when people say believe that atheists are less moral than christians it affects them? In their relationships/in their job prospects?
i think they are hardly any 'muslim' rapists, they maybe quite a few arabs, but not many muslims. saying that perhaps look at africca, and see all the chrisitian niggas there fucking animals, fucking kids.. all in the name of christanity, but the media doesnt focus on it, not even a bit and instead focuses on islam, As a result you have become to believe that majority of muslims are rapists - can you prove this?
 

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Re: have you ever been treatred differently based on your religious beliefs? VOTE PLE

Not That Bright said:
I have to say not really for most of my life. However my school did do something really odd once during a chapel (mandatory) they asked for non-believers to go to one side of the hall and for believers to go to the other side. I went to the non-believer side and then they started asking us why exactly we don't believe etc, it was quite odd, I rationalised my belief the best way I could and I thought I didn't do too bad.. I wasn't insulting to the believers but at the same time I tried to make it a decent on the spot case - but afterwards my friends seemed pretty pissed off at me for not believing.
I used to get that sort of awesome confrontation on the bus to school every morning. Throughout my life I think throughout my life I have been the one challenging religion and not being the one challenged. Nothing more amusing than truly making someone question their religion or just seeing them lose it as they realise that my mere presence is a personal slight to Jesus.

Comrade nathan said:
I think to be discriminated against you need to be deprived of something.
No. Not necessarily anything tangible.

Not_That_Bright said:
So you don't think that saying 'Muslims are rapists' is discrimination because they're being deprived of nothing?
You're right. It deprives them of many human dignities.

AntiHyper said:
Eversince then, I lost any dedication being a muslim so I just left the religion being an atheist now. Religion sucks, it screened my primary school life with boredom and anxiety.
That sucks. Are you happier now?

ur_inner_child
O_O!!! Nothing at all strange about that. Next time he does that, shoot back with your own interpretation of Jesus. Tell him something like: "Couldn't it be my parents who are wrong for not supporting my pursuit of this gift the good Lord has given me?" That way you adhere to Christian values while at the same time telling him to get fucked.

Damage Inc.
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wheredanton said:
Yes...mainly by the lunatic fringe of christians at unsw and a friend I used to have who went to a wacky hills district christian school. All don't want to know me.
Sounds like the Socialists at ANU. We (I) don't see that many hardcore Christians about. Those that I do I chase down and challenge to a battle of wit and logic... or just hate on jebus.

nwatts said:
That person is an absolute wanker. He doesn't reflect how a Christian should think and act. Don't take him seriously.
1. The language is unnecessary;
2. It is a legit Christian viewpoint, though there are many more reasonable ones;
3. Cheers, Captain Obvious.
 
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O_O!!! Nothing at all strange about that. Next time he does that, shoot back with your own interpretation of Jesus. Tell him something like: "Couldn't it be my parents who are wrong for not supporting my pursuit of this gift the good Lord has given me?" That way you adhere to Christian values while at the same time telling him to get fucked.
lol!
 
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Re: have you ever been treatred differently based on your religious beliefs? VOTE PLE

tWiStEdD said:
ur_inner_child
O_O!!! Nothing at all strange about that. Next time he does that, shoot back with your own interpretation of Jesus. Tell him something like: "Couldn't it be my parents who are wrong for not supporting my pursuit of this gift the good Lord has given me?" That way you adhere to Christian values while at the same time telling him to get fucked.

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1. The language is unnecessary;
2. It is a legit Christian viewpoint, though there are many more reasonable ones;
3. Cheers, Captain Obvious.
lolol, hypocrisy in a thread about religion (regardless of what you believe), I'm calling the papers!
 

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Re: do you feel you have ever been treatred differently based on your religious belie

ihavenothing said:
Nobody has to know your religious beliefs, they are meant to be kept private and personal and not institutionalised. Thats the idea of a secular society versus a theocratic one.
that may be true, but when you are sporting something that could be identified as a beard and resemble an arab, then it is a little difficult to conceal your religion, or at least it is hard for the interviewer to not take a mental guess at your religion.
 

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I find it odd to think that non-believers aren't discriminated against when we don't even have our viewpoint presented in religion classes - there is no 'free periods' for atheists whom don't want to attend primary school religion classes...

Anyway, I do think there's widespread atheist discrimination (not nearly as severe as the current muslim discrimination tho of course)...

Articles For:

http://volokh.com/posts/1125342962.shtml
http://www.religioustolerance.org/amer_intol.htm

Middle Ground:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination said:
Religious Discrimination is the act of not associating with people belonging to a particular
faith or giving them special treatment. This is to be differentiated with racial discrimination which is based on ethnicity, even if both can be intertwined in some cases.

Today, many western states forbid discrimination based on religion, though this is not always enforced. For example, since the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 in the United States of America, the EEOC has received more than 800 charge filings alleging religious discrimination by individuals who are or who are perceived to be Muslim, Arabic, Middle Eastern, South Asian or Sikh with the two most common issues being harassment and discharge.

An example of statewise discrimination is non-Muslims bring discriminated against in the few remaining Islamic theocratic states. Jews and Christians have historically had fewer freedoms than Muslim citizens in Muslim states; non-Muslims monotheists have been consigned to the status of dhimmis in some cases. The article on discrimination against non-Muslims in Saudi Arabia discusses this subject in more depth. Marxist states have also discriminated against all religions at some time or another. This continues in North Korea, China and Vietnam, and many former Soviet republics.

Religious students may be said to be discriminated against in some western state schools. For example, names of clubs have been changed due to claims by administrative staff that some part of the name or the symbolism it represents may offend other students, parents, or teachers.

Some others claim that non-religious people (atheists, agnostics, etc.) are subject to the most widespread religious discrimination. During his 1988 Presidential campaign, George H.W. Bush stated that atheists should not be considered patriots or citizens.
Article Against:
http://www.family.org/cforum/fnif/news/a0039614.cfm
 
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Not-That-Bright said:
I find it odd to think that non-believers aren't discriminated against when we don't even have our viewpoint presented in religion classes - there is no 'free periods' for atheists whom don't want to attend primary school religion classes...
I used to spend scripture lessons watching around the twist with about four other kids in a separate classroom. A bunch of us were because they couldn't find a scripture teacher of the correct denomination, and two of the others were because they were not religious.
 

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