Sorry hon. Wasnt trying to be nasty. Just really thought you'd hate it...katie tully said:You're such a spack sometimesBut I guess that answers my question: Degree of lunacy, amber alert.
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Katie , i wasnt saying scientists dont want there to be deeper meaning - only that they havent found any evidence of 'deeper meaning'. (whatever that is)katie tully said:You're such a spack sometimes
Science can explain how humans exist, and to be honest I think asking why we exist is just leading us into another theological debate. The easy answer would be evolution, blah blah, but again that pretty much only explains how.
Hasn't this entire debate been about why? I think if any scientists have been able to explain why we exist, they'd be very rich and this debate would be very redundant.
Not true. I'm sure plenty of scientists would like to believe there is a deeper meaning in the existence of humans, it's just that proving 'why' is a lot harder than proving how.
Just wondering whether the last 3 days have been the same or whether something had happened.
I don't understand what you're saying. My response was in re: to Inasero's post, as to whether any scientists have found a reason 'why' we exist'. There doesn't have to be a reason why. I know I am content with the belief that we exist purely because we do, I personally don't seek out, or need a reason 'why'.
Mu. A further question needs to be asked in relation to your second question - do we have any reason to think that such a question has a determinate answer?inasero said:
This is a key point. If religion, to use a broad straw brushstroke, is false then it too fails to provide the "meaning of it all". That religions provide accounts of meaning does not, as far as I am aware, count as evidence in favour of their veracity. Sure, it gives them aesthetic points given the way meaning appeals to the human psyche, but this is a separate issue from the truth of their claims (again, unless you are a certain species of pragmatist).Enteebee said:
actually religion can explain the meaning of life if that is to what u are referring.Enteebee said:
Wait, you know the answer to the meaning of life yet theist philosophers throughout the entire history of mankind have been unable to? Holy shit, enlighten us please.want2bdifferent said:
If a religion gives an explanation for the meaning of life which is false then I would say it hasn't explained the meaning of life at all. For example, if you asked me to explain how the universe came into being and I gave you a scientific theory which gave an account of how this could have happened but it was easily proven false would you accept that I had explained how the universe came into being?want2bdifferent said:
They say things like "be with God" which is as far as I can tell empty rhetoric and it doesn't sound like the greatest meaning ever to me, but they'll say otherwise and such a choice is rather subjective. They can claim to know the meaning of life by claiming that they believe in X, X is always right and X says the meaning is Y.Riet said:
Don't bother man, she's smarter then every philosopher ever. She would beat the shit out of Nietzche and his Ubermennsch shit. She would make Faust's trip to the depths of hell look like a walk through Hyde Park.Enteebee said:
Well yeah sure they can explain things. I can explain how babies come into existence if I suppose that a stalk did it. I would think we might be looking for something more of an 'explanation' than such a thing though.... I mean at the very least I think the explanations are very bad ones if many of their supporting facts are wrong/questionable.want2bdifferent said:
the whole purpose of our existence is to fear & obey our creator?want2bdifferent said:
do you actually know what it means to fear God?Captain Gh3y said:
1 John 4:8 God is Love. 1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.Ecclesiastes 12:13 Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. God is Love. There is no fear in love. Fear God.want2bdifferent said:
is it anything like fearing hitler?want2bdifferent said:
