Gay marriage insidious and dangerous, says the Pope (2 Viewers)

[kaz1]

None of those individuals did so because of their catholicism, they did it because of their own personal faults. No catholic doctrine or teaching inspired this.

You can argue that celibacy contributed to the pedophilia of those clergy.

 

[supercalamari]

None of those individuals did so because of their catholicism, they did it because of their own personal faults. No catholic doctrine or teaching inspired this.


I was talking about pedophilia but you still remain wrong. The bible did not descend down onto the altar at Saint Peters; Which writers should be included in it remains a heavily debated topic amongst both clergy and laity. The pope is bigoted because he himself is a bigot, the paragraph in Romans which no doubt you refer to is interpreted differently by thousands of clergy, thousands others question whether the works of Saint Paul ought to be in the bible at all. The pope is not one of those people because he wants homophobia to be immoral. You are the most deluded of all if you truly think the Church's current stance on homosexuality will endure the century.

I'll start going to church again when the church takes real action on child abuse and changes its illogical stance on queer people. Until then...

 

[Garygaz]

I'll start going to church again when the church takes real action on child abuse and changes its illogical stance on queer people. Until then...

so you're faith is based on the ministers rather then the teachings?

 

[SnowFox]

Catholicism implies papal infallibility. If you think that a man who refused to act on sexual abuse claims is infallible, then you're paedophilia apologist.[/quote

Guide to Understanding Basic CDF Procedures concerning Sexual Abuse Allegations

i suggest you read this

Yes, thats all good, if they fucking followed it.

 

[supercalamari]

so you're faith is based on the ministers rather then the teachings?

Nah. Maybe I should have made that clearer.

 

[Rabbi_Bob]

So.. whats the point of this thread? Why are you turning against the pope? He is only the messenger.
The bible specifically calls Homosexuals abominations. But like christians usually do, they just chose to ignore what ever makes their religion appear 'less barbaric'.
Atleast the pope is being honest, unlike the rest of the catholic hypcrocrits.

 

[Scorch]

So.. whats the point of this thread? Why are you turning against the pope? He is only the messenger.
The bible specifically calls Homosexuals abominations. But like christians usually do, they just chose to ignore what ever makes their religion appear 'less barbaric'.
Atleast the pope is being honest, unlike the rest of the catholic hypcrocrits.

Yes, I agree with you. I think I may have pointed that out in this thread; when the only way to make your Holy Book seem relevant in the modern day and not barbaric and violent is to just work out excuses to ignore parts of it outright without consideration of its implications, then there is something severely wrong and completely not 'timeless' about said Holy Book.

 

[Gedi-Master]

Yes, thats all good, if they fucking followed it.

Sorry, could you give an example of when they haven't followed it?

thanks!

 

[jiratic]

So.. whats the point of this thread? Why are you turning against the pope? He is only the messenger.
The bible specifically calls Homosexuals abominations. But like christians usually do, they just chose to ignore what ever makes their religion appear 'less barbaric'.
Atleast the pope is being honest, unlike the rest of the catholic hypcrocrits.

the stupid is so thick it hurts:
THE BIBLE WAS NOT WRITTEN IN ENGLISH, stop quoting a translation of a translation of a translation.
Reliable scholars have pointed out there was no word for 'abomination', and that the bible is not at all clear in its condemnation of homosexuality *see debate about non vaginal sex in a biblical context.

You bible thumpers dont even bother to examine the limited integrity of a bastardised book, yet you base your whole world view on it.

 

[Chemical Ali]

the stupid is so thick it hurts:
THE BIBLE WAS NOT WRITTEN IN ENGLISH, stop quoting a translation of a translation of a translation.
Reliable scholars have pointed out there was no word for 'abomination', and that the bible is not at all clear in its condemnation of homosexuality *see debate about non vaginal sex in a biblical context.

You bible thumpers dont even bother to examine the limited integrity of a bastardised book, yet you base your whole world view on it.

umm excuse me, clearly the most authoritative version of the bible is the KING JAMES VERSION. Which is in ENGLISH.

So if English was good enough for JESUS, it's good enough for me.

 

[bazrah]

Um he's ~Infallible~

I'm sorry the truth hurts you atheist marxists!

Another non-religious person making an idiot of themselves by attempting to bag out a religion they don't even understand.

 

[bazrah]

Catholicism implies papal infallibility. If you think that a man who refused to act on sexual abuse claims is infallible, then you're paedophilia apologist.

See above post.

 

[Rothbard]

Another non-religious person making an idiot of themselves by attempting to bag out a religion they don't even understand.

I was raised a catholic and went to a catholic school, I know more about catholicism than you could ever hope to learn in your lifetime.

 

[SpoonSamba]

fuck the poooolice muthafuka!

 

[bazrah]

I was raised a catholic and went to a catholic school, I know more about catholicism than you could ever hope to learn in your lifetime.

Yet you say something completely irrelevant to papal infallibility as a Pope has only spoken in ex cathedra once since the doctrine was first declared in 1870. No doubt you most certainly did go to a catholic school. The religious education you received there would have been most likely below par which is most likely what has resulted in your confusion about papal infallibility. Yes, I'm sure you know a lot about catholicism . . . . .

 

[kaz1]

Yet you say something completely irrelevant to papal infallibility as a Pope has only spoken in ex cathedra once since the doctrine was first declared in 1870. No doubt you most certainly did go to a catholic school. The religious education you received there would have been most likely below par which is most likely what has resulted in your confusion about papal infallibility. Yes, I'm sure you know a lot about catholicism . . . . .

Catholic clergy like little boys.

 

[katie tully]

i agree

gay people are vile, vapid, insidious creatures

 

[bazrah]

Catholic clergy like little boys.

As do most homosexual men.

 

[BigBoyJames__]

I was raised a catholic and went to a catholic school, I know more about catholicism than you could ever hope to learn in your lifetime.

lol you are a classic jew. no offense.

 

[Entrant]

Nothing wrong with being gay. So what if society doesn't approve? Individuality is the most important thing a person can have in this age of conformity.