Government Non-Selective Schools. (1 Viewer)
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firstly, stop arguing
and to clarify, yes, some country students (i dunno the exact criteria) get their UAI's bolstered wen applying for uni (ie they are given mayb 5 extra points) but this bonus isnt included in ur actual UAI u are given, only wen u are applying for a uni which accept this, and u have met the criteria for the bonus points
and to clarify, yes, some country students (i dunno the exact criteria) get their UAI's bolstered wen applying for uni (ie they are given mayb 5 extra points) but this bonus isnt included in ur actual UAI u are given, only wen u are applying for a uni which accept this, and u have met the criteria for the bonus points
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Thanks for clearing that up Minai
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that is absolutly ludicrus!!!!!!!!!!! i cant believe that people get extra marks just ebcause where they live... for fucks sake why should people living in the country get extra points just becasue of where they live... its not the city peoples fault that their parents/family chose to live there... why should we suffer..... its not fair!!!!!! just because you mightnt have as good resources doesnt mean you should get extra points?!!!!! what kind of resources do city schools have that give us an advantage.... ohhh a few more bits of sport equipment or computers.... for shits sake they do assist in mnaking someone smarter or dumber... i am sure thsat there are tons of counrty studnet who are more intelligent than city students..... god dam it soon they will be giving government school people extra points because they dont have as good resources as private.... the education system is fucked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's not a uniform thing, it's not like everyone gets extra points, and they don't actually get them on their UAI... it's sort of like some unis might give them extra consideration because of where they live.... like I know if you live in Albury and apply for CSU they look at your application as if you have a UAI that is 5 points higher.... this is certainly not true for all universities, especially the big city ones, and it wouldn't apply to courses that are really prestigious/hard to get into....
I agree, in a way it sort of sucks (I'm a non-metro person though), but I don't think it makes a lot of impact. The government should work on improving resources for non metropolitan students so things are fairer, rather than the universities handing out extra marks to try and even things out.
I.e. Perhaps the government could provide the Albury Library with some funds so they can buy some books that actually contain information... especially on Chemistry..... that might give us a more equal opportunity...
I agree, in a way it sort of sucks (I'm a non-metro person though), but I don't think it makes a lot of impact. The government should work on improving resources for non metropolitan students so things are fairer, rather than the universities handing out extra marks to try and even things out.
I.e. Perhaps the government could provide the Albury Library with some funds so they can buy some books that actually contain information... especially on Chemistry..... that might give us a more equal opportunity...
sugaryblue
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The best! I wouldn't choose another even if I could turn back time.
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sugaryblue
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and Chemistry and Maths and English and Language teachers!
sugaryblue
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Mrs Lewis is superbe!
Seriously, if I am not taught by her, I might as well drop physics. <-- same rule for chem!Well, most of the maths and english teachers are pretty cool, my english teachers' are the best! (I got three)
and the language staffroom has the nicest teachers around
okay, I admit it, I am addicted to school
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your a worry!
i reckon that the difference between a good teacher and a bad is that the good ones teach you in a tactical sense rather than a content sense. So e.g. lewis gives a more exam / syllabus apprach to her classes rather than a completely content based teaching stlye
same with sezza. He does that a lot. gets us to memorise the syllabus basically!
The content is the easy part, its getting the marks in the tes thats the hard part!
i reckon that the difference between a good teacher and a bad is that the good ones teach you in a tactical sense rather than a content sense. So e.g. lewis gives a more exam / syllabus apprach to her classes rather than a completely content based teaching stlye
same with sezza. He does that a lot. gets us to memorise the syllabus basically!
The content is the easy part, its getting the marks in the tes thats the hard part!
sugaryblue
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hehe... I know! I am too emotionally attached to the school.
I don't know what to do with myself when I finish HSC well, in my definition, a good teacher is someone who makes you understand. It would be good if he/she helps you to get the mark, but the main purpose of life is to learn. and I like my teachers coz they don't just treat you like students, they have to chat with you as well
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yeah true
i guess the main point i was trying to make is that most of the content should be able to be covered when revising, but its the more tactical side that may lack.
But yeah, there would be no point if the teacher didn't teach you the content as you would be lost!
i guess the main point i was trying to make is that most of the content should be able to be covered when revising, but its the more tactical side that may lack.
But yeah, there would be no point if the teacher didn't teach you the content as you would be lost!
sugaryblue
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they won't let me fill up the page with smilies
anyway, from what I have learnt, selective schools have high results coz they put a lot of pressures on them. but our school has a nice learning environment, friendly and encouraging teacher.
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se;ective schools get better marks for one reason...
and thats that the candidates are better (which is why they are selevtive in the first place)
But i think that for most people they would get the same results if they went to a selective or a non selevtive, the only difference is to do with motivation rather than the quality of the learning
But i guess that can work in two directions. I guess in a selective school theres a lot of competition which can motivate you to keep up with the pack, but then it could work adversely in that it might seem as though your work is getting you no-where (even though it is its just that it doesn't seem so) this can cause them to give up!
But then in non selevtive schools it can work the oppisite where it is relatively "easier" to get towards the top of the pack and then you could get over confident and not have the motivation. But then it could favour in that if you do put in the work you could do really well, maybe come close to top in a subject and then it's like "hey i can do this" and then it gives a lot more motivation.
and thats that the candidates are better (which is why they are selevtive in the first place)
But i think that for most people they would get the same results if they went to a selective or a non selevtive, the only difference is to do with motivation rather than the quality of the learning
But i guess that can work in two directions. I guess in a selective school theres a lot of competition which can motivate you to keep up with the pack, but then it could work adversely in that it might seem as though your work is getting you no-where (even though it is its just that it doesn't seem so) this can cause them to give up!
But then in non selevtive schools it can work the oppisite where it is relatively "easier" to get towards the top of the pack and then you could get over confident and not have the motivation. But then it could favour in that if you do put in the work you could do really well, maybe come close to top in a subject and then it's like "hey i can do this" and then it gives a lot more motivation.
look unless ur at a selective you cant kno what its like, while Im not trying to start a selective VS non selective debate, Im just saying that you cant reeeally generalise on how it is unless u are in it.
There isnt pressure, the only pressure is that which you put on ur self, the onli difference I see in selective schools are that you know that 99+ is possible if you work, and it is assumed that the dux will get 99.95/100. With some non selectives that might not b a certainty.
There isnt pressure, the only pressure is that which you put on ur self, the onli difference I see in selective schools are that you know that 99+ is possible if you work, and it is assumed that the dux will get 99.95/100. With some non selectives that might not b a certainty.
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What you said. There is no extra pressure or anything like that, the only difference is a motivation thing.
So like the person who wants to do well regardless of any other factor will do well in both a selective and a non-selective high school. But aside from this, you get more motivation from a selective school based on the fact that everyone else is trying and you want to keep up with everybody else, so you try that little bit more than you would at a comprehensive school becuase you would have a much higher posiution and a comprehensive school.
But all i am saying is that the opposite can work where it actually helps to be in a comprehensive school becuase it makes you feel as though you work is getting you somewhere. For example, if a student says "ok im going to try really hard this year". At a selective school, they may not improve their rankings very much, but at a comprehensive school they would go much higher, in which case they would say, "ok i like getting good marks therefore i will do this all the time" but at a selevtive school they will say "oh, my extra effort isn't worth the marks i got" and then never try again.
Thats what happened for me...
So like the person who wants to do well regardless of any other factor will do well in both a selective and a non-selective high school. But aside from this, you get more motivation from a selective school based on the fact that everyone else is trying and you want to keep up with everybody else, so you try that little bit more than you would at a comprehensive school becuase you would have a much higher posiution and a comprehensive school.
But all i am saying is that the opposite can work where it actually helps to be in a comprehensive school becuase it makes you feel as though you work is getting you somewhere. For example, if a student says "ok im going to try really hard this year". At a selective school, they may not improve their rankings very much, but at a comprehensive school they would go much higher, in which case they would say, "ok i like getting good marks therefore i will do this all the time" but at a selevtive school they will say "oh, my extra effort isn't worth the marks i got" and then never try again.
Thats what happened for me...