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A little hard for the lower level marathon but a little easier for this level:

If



then



Noting that the penultimate term is just , induction does the trick.
 

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Find:

lim ((2n)! / (n!n^n))^(1/n)
n->infinity
 

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Let



Then by log laws we have



But the limit of this expression as is exactly the definition of the integral of log(x) between 1 and 2!

So since the exponential function is continuous, we get

 

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Let



Then by log laws we have



But the limit of this expression as is exactly the definition of the integral of log(x) between 1 and 2!

So since the exponential function is continuous, we get

that's what i did. This was question's clearly too easy for the advanced thread. Here's another one which is a little hard for the normal thread but easier than the rest of the questions here.

A function f(x) is integral e --> 1 abs(t-x) e^t dt (0<=x<=1) . Find f(x) and the x value which gives its minimum value.
 

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that's what i did. This was question's clearly too easy for the advanced thread. Here's another one which is a little hard for the normal thread but easier than the rest of the questions here.

A function f(x) is integral e --> 1 abs(t-x) e^t dt (0<=x<=1) . Find f(x) and the x value which gives its minimum value.
Am a bit confused by your notation here, you should use LaTeX!

Anyway, presuming my guess at what you mean is right (and that the absolute values are irrelevant because x =< 1):



which is minimised at x=1, because the slope of this line is negative. (Unless you meant integrating from e to 1, in which case change sign of the above and x=0 gives the minimum).

This seems too easy though, so let me know if you meant something else.
 

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when i say abs(t-x), i'm talking the absolute value of it. so |t-x|. and sorry i meant integrate 1 to 0, with the 1 on top. Don't know why i put an e.


also, contrary to what you had stated, the absolute values do play a role.

To help you, here's the value of f(x): 2e^x -(e+1)x-1
 
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when i say abs(t-x), i'm talking the absolute value of it. so |t-x|. and sorry i meant integrate 1 to 0, with the 1 on top. Don't know why i put an e.


also, contrary to what you had stated, the absolute values do play a role.

To help you, here's the value of f(x): 2e^x -(e+1)x-1
In the question you originally posted, absolute values didn't play a role. t went between 1 and e and x was smaller than 1. So t-x was always positive.

After you changed the interval of integration, of course the absolute values matter. Now we do the following:





where



is a primitive of the integrand.

Then by differentiating f, we find that it is stationary at



And this is the minimum, because f'' > 0 for 0 < x < 1.
 
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In the question you originally posted, absolute values didn't play a role. t went between 1 and e and x was smaller than 1. So t-x was always positive.

After you changed the interval of integration, of course the absolute values matter. Now we do the following:







where



is a primitive of the integrand.

Then by differentiating f, we find that it is stationary at



And this is the minimum, because f'' > 0 for 0 < x < 1.
Our methods are different, but our answers are the same. Since Sy123 seems to be busy, i'll just post more questions.

Given x>1 or <1/2 and n is an integer, prove the following

(1+ x/(x-1) )^n >= 1+nx/(x-1)
 

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Our methods are different, but our answers are the same. Since Sy123 seems to be busy, i'll just post more questions.

Given x>1 or <1/2 and n is an integer, prove the following

(1+ x/(x-1) )^n >= 1+nx/(x-1)
Thanks for the questions!

It's easy to show that



by multiplying out and solving the quadratic inequality.

So I only need to show that



for y > -1 and all integers n.

This comes from observing that is a concave up function for (from graphs we have drawn for a long time, or by taking second derivatives), and so the tangent line to this curve at lies below this curve for all .

Since the derivative of at 1 is , the above fact translates to



for all as required.
 

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Yep, that also works. note that equality holds iff x=0.

given 0<x<y, determine which of (1+x)^y or (1+y)^x is larger
 
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I think this is only necessarily true if a,b,c,d are positive so I will make that assumption.

For real , the polynomial



is non-negative and so must have non-positive discriminant.

This implies that



upon simplification. (This is called the Cauchy-Schwartz inequality and is very famous).

Now a simple application of Cauchy-Schwartz gives us



but our assumption that a+b+c+d=1 implies that the second factor on the LHS is 2 and that the RHS is 1.

So we are left with

 

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I didn't assume anything from beyond the course though did I? I just mentioned the name of an intermediate thing I proved.

I proved everything using that squares are non-negative and that non-negative quadratics have non-positive discriminant...this is surely okay?
 

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I didn't assume anything from beyond the course though did I? I just mentioned the name of an intermediate thing I proved.

I proved everything using that squares are non-negative and that non-negative quadratics have non-positive discriminant...this is surely okay?
I think what TL1998 was going for is that if you knew only what the 4U course would teach you, how would you do it. Cauchy Schwarz although can be proven with 4U methods is not taught nor is it an inequality that is entirely obvious
 

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Does anyone know a book that has deeper complex numbers/polynomial theoretical styled problems like the 2011 Extension 2 HSC Exam Q8 (c). If so, please let us know :p.
 

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Does anyone know a book that has deeper complex numbers/polynomial theoretical styled problems like the 2011 Extension 2 HSC Exam Q8 (c). If so, please let us know :p.
There are many books on polynomials containing those kinds of properties (bounding locations of roots, it's actually something I personally find fascinating). However, a lot of them need some understanding and knowledge of higher powered machinery such as Rouche's Theorem, which is one of the core theorems in the refinement of polynomial root locations.

Some fairly loose bounds on polynomial roots can be established without those tools (like 2011 HSC) but they are usually too insignificant to have a dedicated problem set for.

If you look up in google "Integer Polynomials", there is a paper that has a whole lot of these properties (including the 2011 HSC one I believe) but like I said, there are few such books out there with totally elementary proofs. If I recall correctly, there is a book on Polynomials by Barbeau that may have some of these problems.

In 2012 BOS Trials, the very last question establishes a fairly tight bound on the roots of polynomials.
 

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I think what TL1998 was going for is that if you knew only what the 4U course would teach you, how would you do it. Cauchy Schwarz although can be proven with 4U methods is not taught nor is it an inequality that is entirely obvious
Ah right, I see what you mean. (Our teacher did show us it though as a useful inequality to know and know how to prove, like AM-GM-HM.)

Do you know if I would lose any marks for having a solution like that? fleshed out a bit in an actual exam.
 

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Ah right, I see what you mean. (Our teacher did show us it though as a useful inequality to know and know how to prove, like AM-GM-HM.)

Do you know if I would lose any marks for having a solution like that? fleshed out a bit in an actual exam.
I do not think you would lose any marks

I would ask Carrotsticks for confirmation though
 
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