If you will be eligible to vote, who do you intend to vote for? (6 Viewers)

[Graney]

Wow thats cold, couldnt u just give the child to someone willing to raise it or hand it over to an orphanage?

Who would voluntarily choose to raise a child with a severe intellectual disability? There are no government/charitable institutions that will do it either. If you give birth to such a child, you are indentured to spend every waking moment of the next 50 years of your life caring for them. Caring for that child will consume your whole life, you will have to sacrifice everything.

 

[mirakon]

^^^

But someone willing to raise it won't magically appear.

And I imagine living in an orphanage would be worse than being dead.

Worst case scenario leave the child to fend for itself. I dont see why u have to directly kill it

 

[Annihilist]

Exists for race, sex, transgenders, martial status, disability, careers, sexual preference, age, and HIV status. Given it's the sex party, that sound like it's probably designed to combat discrimination against prostitutes etc due to their profession.



The problem is not one of discrimination, it's just for whatever reason far less females choose to participate in party politics. If say 80% of your active membership is male then that is no doubt going to be reflected in preselections. It's definitely a problem of participation, which the proposed policy will do nothing to address.

I agree entirely and this is probably the only problem I can find with the Sex party. Also that they don't go far enough with drug policies, but that's just me.

 

[Riproot]

Imagine! What horror of horrors! Selfish super bitch, choosing to pursue a career rather than have children. She's going to hell. If the event of a conflict between a woman and a vague embryonic entity with potential for human life I will back the rights of the human life over the undefined entity every time.

Basic Islamic beliefs right here.

Inshallah

so many ways to go about it
have a car crash
drive your car into a flood
burn your house down
reverse over the kid in your driveway in your landcruiser

hahaahaha.

The amount of people I know who've done this is astounding.

 

[Riproot]

did you read what graney said though
why does it matter that the child is 'genetically' human when in reality until age 2 or so it is less developed than a dog
and we kill dogs every day for a variety of reasons

Yep.

Pigs have the intelligence of a three year old and the ones we eat live in horrible conditions from birth and are killed daily.

Worst case scenario leave the child to fend for itself. I dont see why u have to directly kill it

New-born being left to fend for itself is pretty much killing it.

You're retarded.

 

[Annihilist]

Worst case scenario leave the child to fend for itself. I dont see why u have to directly kill it

I've already stated that adoption is not a viable option. Orphanages are already overcrowded, underfunded, and the conditions are terrible and often children are treated awfully. If I'm wrong correct me but I am convinced that I am not. But the world is already overflowing with unwanted children, and I think it is better if that child didn't exist in the first place.

"Forcing someone to live against their will is just as bad as forcing them to die against their will"

 

[boris]

Worst case scenario leave the child to fend for itself. I dont see why u have to directly kill it

far less cruel to kill a child instantly than to let it die from neglect etc

 

[mirakon]

I've already stated that adoption is not a viable option. Orphanages are already overcrowded, underfunded, and the conditions are terrible and often children are treated awfully. If I'm wrong correct me but I am convinced that I am not. But the world is already overflowing with unwanted children, and I think it is better if that child didn't exist in the first place.

"Forcing someone to live against their will is just as bad as forcing them to die against their will"

Iwas referring to a "very retarded" child rather than a fetus

 

[townie]

Sometimes complications arise during birth that require the pregnancy to be terminated otherwise both the baby and the mother will die.

Still a situation.

And that's all you asked for.

That's how you said it.

Because we don't already have enough kids that need to be adopted.

They aren't even nearly "fully formed" until they've gone through puberty.

Kill ALL the fetuses!

http://www.community.nsw.gov.au/par...ring_and_adoption/adoption/want_to_adopt.html "there are only a small number of children requiring adoptive families"

 

[townie]

Imagine! What horror of horrors! Selfish super bitch, choosing to pursue a career rather than have children. She's going to hell. If the event of a conflict between a woman and a vague embryonic entity with potential for human life I will back the rights of the human life over the undefined entity every time.

In case you were too stupid to read I've been talking about late term abortions you twat

 

[townie]

How did the same person neg me twice in fifteen minutes. Woman hating scum.

Perhaps you'd like to practice what you preach and instead of going on about people in here resorting to personal insults instead of argument, do so yourself.

 

[Riproot]

http://www.community.nsw.gov.au/par...ring_and_adoption/adoption/want_to_adopt.html "there are only a small number of children requiring adoptive families"

And yet, the global population is growing and our resources are being used up faster and faster, and we could stop this one baby at a time.

 

[Lentern]

In case you were too stupid to read I've been talking about late term abortions you twat

Still little more than abstract entities with vague potential for human life.

 

[boris]

didnt you just call him a twat

 

[Lentern]

Perhaps you'd like to practice what you preach and instead of going on about people in here resorting to personal insults instead of argument, do so yourself.

More curious about how you did it in such quick succession. The nature of them doesn't bother me. I bet Matthew Newton makes you hard.

 

[Annihilist]

And yet, the global population is growing and our resources are being used up faster and faster, and we could stop this one baby at a time.

I completely agree.

Given we have successfully derailed this topic, I might create a separate abortion thread to keep the debate off here. It's not really relevant to the topic. Unless it dies down in which case I won't bother.

 

[townie]

And yet, the global population is growing and our resources are being used up faster and faster, and we could stop this one baby at a time.

Population growth is occuring in the poor countries, not here, Australia's fertility rate doesn't even naturally replace those lost to death.

 

[townie]

didnt you just call him a twat

I never argued against personal insults

 

[na110793]

I completely agree.

Given we have successfully derailed this topic, I might create a separate abortion thread to keep the debate off here. It's not really relevant to the topic. Unless it dies down in which case I won't bother.

too late, did it for you

 

[townie]

More curious about how you did it in such quick succession. The nature of them doesn't bother me. I bet Matthew Newton makes you hard.

Oh ok so you'll just completely ignore my point now, great arguing brah.