If You're a Christian, Muslim or Jew - You are Wrong (2 Viewers)

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MoonlightSonata said:
The Bible isn't necessarily true, no matter how many copies there are. How many copies of Shakespeare's works are there? Do you know? Originals from the very first writings of it. This says nothing about the truth value.
Shakespeare's works were performed 1500 years after the birth of Jesus. You're making no point here.

MoonlightSonata said:
I hate to break it to you, but you cannot use the Bible to prove the existence of God.

1. The Bible shows God is true.
2. How do we know the bible is true?
3. The Bible was inspired by/word of God.

Circular reasoning at its most obvious. Premise 3 requires the truth of the attempted conclusion. If you still don't get it, I will make it clearer in detail:

1. The Bible shows God is true.
2. How do we know the bible is true?
3. The Bible was inspired by/word of God.
4. How do we know the Bible was inspired by/word of God?
5. The Bible says so.
6. How do we know the bible is true?
7. The Bible was inspired by/word of God.
8. How do we know the Bible was inspired by/word of God?
9. The Bible says so.
10. How do we know the bible is true?
11. The Bible was inspired by/word of God.
12. How do we know the Bible was inspired by/word of God?
13. The Bible says so.... (ad infinitum)

You cannot use the Bible to prove that God exists. It is circular reasoning. Next proof/reason please.
You claim the bible is 'circular reasoning', when I merely see it as the word of God. The Bible states God created the Heaven and Earth in 6 days.

There are also many other texts that show the resurrection of Jesus, after he had been executed by the Romans, who were the best executioners throughout all of history. The New Testament, by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, gives first hand evidence of the life of Jesus.

This 'circular reasoning' which you seem to love so much doesn't disporve anything.

You have still however failed to provide any evidence for the non-existence of God.
 

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Lozacious said:
Do you believe Jesus existed?
being an atheist myself. i believe that jesus did exist, however he was some guy who was smart enough to expoit peoples gullible nature, and use this to make himself appear holly and receive alot of attention from it. Him being the first person to claim he is son of god or what ever, made him known by all ( even the majority of who strongly apposed). This claim was the most contraversial and radical claim that was made in that time of history and similar to a snowball rolling down a hill, this claim grew and spread over time to become a strong part of religion that exists in the current century.
 

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thorrnydevil said:
MoonlightSonata said:
The Bible isn't necessarily true, no matter how many copies there are. How many copies of Shakespeare's works are there? Do you know? Originals from the very first writings of it. This says nothing about the truth value.
Shakespeare's works were performed 1500 years after the birth of Jesus. You're making no point here.
I merely make the point that the number of copies of a text does not prove it is true.
thorrnydevil said:
You claim the bible is 'circular reasoning', when I merely see it as the word of God. The Bible states God created the Heaven and Earth in 6 days.
But how do you know the Bible is true?

"Because it is the word of God, you say."

This is exactly my point. Read my comments again to see how you are going in circles. You try to prove that God exists via the Bible. You try to prove the Bible is true via God. Your argument is fallacious: it assumes what it tries to prove.
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There are also many other texts that show the resurrection of Jesus, after he had been executed by the Romans, who were the best executioners throughout all of history. The New Testament, by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, gives first hand evidence of the life of Jesus.
The Bible cannot be used to prove the existence of God - see above.
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You have still however failed to provide any evidence for the non-existence of God.
I never claimed that God did not exist.
 

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05er said:
You're a lying satanist.
The bible is 100% fact...it's just about someone else.
100% fact

i cant believe a person in this timee and age still believes in noahs arc with all the pairing of animals , and adam and eve stories.

let alone all the other crap thats obviously not true. but just these two fairy tales already make the bible NOT 100% fact.
 

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Have fun with thornydevil Moonlight!
 

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zahid said:
Oh so that's why there is 100000000000000000 different versions of it.
true that zahid
look religion is a major part in life and u can't deny that whatever religion u follow (or even if u don't)...
this guy speaks with without any proof or basis he wasn't around at the times of the people he is referring to so he isn't any better. he is talking on the basis of pure hatred and with his heart and not his brains... he should be providing a two way argument if he is to be believed and accepted..
 

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Sonic said:
true that zahid
look religion is a major part in life and u can't deny that whatever religion u follow (or even if u don't)...
this guy speaks with without any proof or basis he wasn't around at the times of the people he is referring to so he isn't any better. he is talking on the basis of pure hatred and with his heart and not his brains... he should be providing a two way argument if he is to be believed and accepted..
Dude I'd take that IQ in your sig and subtract about 56 to get a true indication.
 

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Calculon said:
Dude I'd take that IQ in your sig and subtract about 56 to get a true indication.
I would like to break your neck....which I can...it's just a matter of time. :)
 

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zahid said:
I would like to break your neck....which I can...it's just a matter of time. :)
Violence is the last resort of oafs who can't win arguments with words.
 

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Calculon said:
Dude I'd take that IQ in your sig and subtract about 56 to get a true indication.
Whoaa...seems like ur winning the arguement with flying colours.
 
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stop fighting, see wat this guy has done. Cenk Uygur. for some reason i just had an image of him standing in a lake of lava with fire in the background and his screaming.

who the fuck is this guy to say this stuff. oh my god this is so offensive. everyone is allowed to have there believes. this guy would go up to up to a 3-4 year old smack them on the head and tell them the tooth fairy doesnt exist. his a fat bastard.
 
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