Riet
Tomcat Pilot
Yes, because convicts are usually in charge.
Because he's basically the only one here who opposes the main view (though a few things he has said are strange). Btw bigboyjames is your sig being sarcastic or quoting something or just trying to be controversial for the sake of it or is it your honest simple opinion?big8oyjames said:WTF happened to this thread? and why is everyone even giving such a dud like cxlxoxk so much attention? cxlxoxk is a fucking retard.
check post 266.Rockyroad said:Because he's basically the only one here who opposes the main view (though a few things he has said are strange). Btw bigboyjames is your sig being sarcastic or quoting something or just trying to be controversial for the sake of it or is it your honest simple opinion?
What's your point? I know cxcclox said that thing you quoted, I've read this whole thread. I'm talking about your original signiture 'war is peace...' ...?big8oyjames said:check post 266.
this is narrow minded?John Oliver said:What's that we have here, OH MY GOD IT'S THE RACISM CARD.
Because we don't accept your narrowminded point of view we're the bigots.
Seeing the irony here.
i can't believe that there are so many people here that take the view that opposes his view, actually.Rockyroad said:Because he's basically the only one here who opposes the main view (though a few things he has said are strange). Btw bigboyjames is your sig being sarcastic or quoting something or just trying to be controversial for the sake of it or is it your honest simple opinion?
it's not about one group of ppl being superior to anotherongitsanjali said:i can't believe that there are so many people here that take the view that opposes his view, actually.
the government, board of education, and the media seem to all concur with him...
oh, wait, john howard seems to agree with you. wow that lends a LOT of credibility to ur argument, doesn't it?
there just seems to be an unusual concentration of primitive and narrow people on this site who believe that cars+technology+money= absolute superiority
it depends on what you mean when you say culture. AND what you mean when you say superiorJohn Oliver said:It's "THIS IS THE ANSWER THERE IS NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE". Which is utter bollocks. There is far more nuance and substance to this discussion than saying "I'm ENLIGHTENED AND YOU'RE RACISTS".
Basically the point of view you're taking is a relativistic viewpoint, which is utterly intellectually dishonest. Whether it's the product of educational indoctrination or just thinking that you're making a difference, it doesn't make it any less vapid.
It is categorically incorrect to say that the average standard of living in western civilisation is less than or equal to that of the average standard of living of a nomadic people without the technology or resources we possess.
Ahthankyouverymuch.
You wouldn't argue that a theocracy is equal to a democracy, so why would you argue that one culture can never be greater than the other.
Thus far we've made the argument using statistics and metrics that are generally taken to be indicative of the 'health' and success of a culture. You kids have made the argument that
a) ALL CULTURES HAVE TO BE EQUAL BECAUSE WE SAY SO
b) Noble savages, noble savages
c) If you don't agree you're racist.
Great arguments guys, no wonder you're all so well respected.
oh, and john howard was a wanker.John Oliver said:Yeah and you mindlessly agree with the govt, board of education and the media... why?
I make my arguments based on logic and rationalisations and above all, evidence. I don't call people racists and I don't rely on an emotional argument.
Someone who held the highest office in our land agreeing with a position would lend credibility to it, I would assume, yes.
It's primitive and narrow to use sociological identifiers to say that one outcome is superior to another?
Quick question; is being alive better than being dead? Is being healthy better than being sick? Is being raped better than being safe and secure?
Kind of important to get these things out of the way nice and early.
citation: the worldJohn Oliver said:[citation needed]
It did absolutely nothing to address inequality and was an entirely populist gesture. It wasn't the correct way about dealing with the current problems faced by Indigenous Australians.
:O i can't believe this...John Oliver said:[citation needed]
No I think the thread is about whether one civilisation is superior/better than the other. See the name of the thread.Will Shakespear said:it's not about one group of ppl being superior to another
it's about which culture is clearly more desirable to live in
sorry.. i didn't mean that there was no disease, but it was significantly less than it is now.John Oliver said:It claims to have mountains of evidence to support its presuppositions. Do we take all claims at face value?
History, of all things, is the one situation in which you don't have an underlying universal truth.
Further, I'm utterly surprised you assume there was no sickness or illness within Aboriginal communities before settlement here. What happened to these immortal beings?!
the rock paintings and monet are barely comparable because they were both saying totally different things. they were highly infused with symbolism and monet appeals primarily to an aesthetic senseRiet said:Umm art isn't subjective when aboriginals gave us rock paintings and western civilisation gave us monet.