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Venuzuela has the 6th highest murder rate in the world, it's 10x the USA. Try again, r-tards.
 

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At least we survived the holocaust and we kick your sorry arab arse ever since. :skip: Maybe your GOD is inferior to ours ha ha!
how childish does this sound? your so retarded!! gosh...
 

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Robert Fisk: Why do they hate the West so much, we will ask - Robert Fisk, Commentators - The Independent

What is amazing is that so many Western leaders, so many presidents and prime ministers and, I fear, so many editors and journalists, bought the old lie; that Israelis take such great care to avoid civilian casualties. "Israel makes every possible effort to avoid civilian casualties," yet another Israeli ambassador said only hours before the Gaza massacre. And every president and prime minister who repeated this mendacity as an excuse to avoid a ceasefire has the blood of last night's butchery on their hands. Had George Bush had the courage to demand an immediate ceasefire 48 hours earlier, those 40 civilians, the old and the women and children, would be alive.

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I've reported the excuses the Israeli army has served up in the past for these outrages. Since they may well be reheated in the coming hours, here are some of them: that the Palestinians killed their own refugees, that the Palestinians dug up bodies from cemeteries and planted them in the ruins, that ultimately the Palestinians are to blame because they supported an armed faction, or because armed Palestinians deliberately used the innocent refugees as cover.

The Sabra and Chatila massacre was committed by Israel's right-wing Lebanese Phalangist allies while Israeli troops, as Israel's own commission of inquiry revealed, watched for 48 hours and did nothing. When Israel was blamed, Menachem Begin's government accused the world of a blood libel. After Israeli artillery had fired shells into the UN base at Qana in 1996, the Israelis claimed that Hizbollah gunmen were also sheltering in the base. It was a lie. The more than 1,000 dead of 2006 – a war started when Hizbollah captured two Israeli soldiers on the border – were simply dismissed as the responsibility of the Hizbollah. Israel claimed the bodies of children killed in a second Qana massacre may have been taken from a graveyard. It was another lie. The Marwahin massacre was never excused. The people of the village were ordered to flee, obeyed Israeli orders and were then attacked by an Israeli gunship. The refugees took their children and stood them around the truck in which they were travelling so that Israeli pilots would see they were innocents. Then the Israeli helicopter mowed them down at close range. Only two survived, by playing dead. Israel didn't even apologise.

Twelve years earlier, another Israeli helicopter attacked an ambulance carrying civilians from a neighbouring village – again after they were ordered to leave by Israel – and killed three children and two women. The Israelis claimed that a Hizbollah fighter was in the ambulance. It was untrue. I covered all these atrocities, I investigated them all, talked to the survivors. So did a number of my colleagues. Our fate, of course, was that most slanderous of libels: we were accused of being anti-Semitic.

And I write the following without the slightest doubt: we'll hear all these scandalous fabrications again. We'll have the Hamas-to-blame lie – heaven knows, there is enough to blame them for without adding this crime – and we may well have the bodies-from-the-cemetery lie and we'll almost certainly have the Hamas-was-in-the-UN-school lie and we will very definitely have the anti-Semitism lie. And our leaders will huff and puff and remind the world that Hamas originally broke the ceasefire. It didn't. Israel broke it, first on 4 November when its bombardment killed six Palestinians in Gaza and again on 17 November when another bombardment killed four more Palestinians.
Good read.
 

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Riet said:
Yeah, see that's called treason or espionage and most countries prosecute traitors and spies just as harshly as they do murderers.
You know most countries had the death penalty when Australia outlawed it too.

He was also indefiniately arrested without charge.

Oh my yes.
 

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lol. Saudi Arabia said it condones the violence.

thanks for your input SA
 

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We've still technically got the def penalty on the books for treason, loal.
Not since 1985.
 

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Israel is the one that broke the cease fire, Israel is the one killing hundreds of civilians
there is no longer a debate to be had here
 

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m00 said:
Israel is the one that broke the cease fire, Israel is the one killing hundreds of civilians
there is no longer a debate to be had here
agreed
 

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israel broke the cease-fire by launching rockets into israel??
 

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m00 said:
Israel is the one that broke the cease fire, Israel is the one killing hundreds of civilians
there is no longer a debate to be had here
totally right!! and israel is the one who is targetting schools killing innocent children and injuring hundreds more. what a disgrace israel has made of itself.
 

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You've lost dude. There's no-one with credibility defending Israel anymore.

Now perhaps we should do something about them. Can I once again put foward a card saying blow them into the Mediterranean?

Where's my poem? I have added something to it to make it relevant to the current genocide/massacre.

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An Ode to Israel
By Nebuchanezzar
2009



Oh beloved Israel,
how I loathe thee.
The basis for your existence,
I simply cannot see.

The murder of Palestinians
is your claim to fame.
You and a piece of dog shit,
are both more or less the same.

The wars you start maim and kill,
and are morally quite poor.
To solve any disagreement,
you simply build a concrete wall.

When Palestine claims their lands
you'll claim that they are faking.
It matters not to you,
all lands are yours for the taking.

Hamas launched a rocket at you
and it killed some cattle.
You then proceeded to blow up schools and mosques
in an unholy battle.

You say Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
is messed up in the cranium.
I personally cannot wait,
Until you're blown into the Mediterranean.

Fin
 

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Ouch, 43 people dead in a UN school that was being used as a refuge center. So...Israel drops leaflets saying 'evacuate', people evacuate to the center...and get bombed? And another UN medical center just got bombed in Bureij (sp?). And another UN school got hit in Gaza city. UNWRA centers are clearly marked and they gave the GPS coordinates of their centers to Israel long before this attack. Love how Israel is using the "we were aiming at Hamas, they were collateral damage". My gut tells me that the UN aren't secretly conspiring with Hamas. Someone might want to let Israel know that.

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lol at neb's poem.
 
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Yeah it's been in the mainstream media for a few days now that Israel broke the ceasefire. You'd have to be pretty dumb or uninformed to argue otherwise now.

Was in the Herald on the weekend I believe.
 

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