jenzipoo in response to codreder* said:
i really really do empathise with the lebanese ppl and NOT once have i EVER said yay bomb those fuckers...i would stoop to the level of sum ice cream bitches on this forum..
i cannot attempt to justify israels every move...im sorry...i do not work within the army and i do not know the inside information...and you know what there probably was not inside infromation...
but what i know from my perspective is for years now i sit and cry watching innocent civilans die in israel...i cannot ebgin to imagine living your life in fear like that! i was there last yr and a suicide bombing went off and it was the scariest thing ive ever experienced (even thought it was 20 kms south of where i was staying) this was not hezbollah it was hamas...
i respect your aknowelesgdemtn of continual israeli suffering and i hope you accept my aknwledgment...
i want this war to end just as much as you do...
i want to go and live in israel next yr for most of the year...i wont be allowed to go if theres anything like this going on..
this war must end BUT israel cannot leave without some sort of dissarmen of hisbollah and the deployment of lebanese or foreign forces in the south...because they refuse to stand by for anopther 6 yrs wathing their state come under attack
i was just skimming the last few threads - i dont know why people have resorted to name calling and not attacking the arguments so ill just back off for now
there are alternatives to killing
im glad u said u cant justfy everything that israel does - its a notable change since the beginning of the thread and i hope more israelis supporters will follow suit
thats true- even if u wanted to - u dont have inside info
and when the world sees entire villages being flattened, people- most notably children who didnt even got a say in who represented them in parliament- getting bombed and killed - the world wants an explanation for these events
the people who claim that israel's actions were excessive and against humanitarian law have laid out their claims, and have provided clear evidence for their claims (eg- civilian facilities- anti hizbullah facilities in northern lebanon along with the others: hospitals and flats and entire towns being destroyed)
now the people who are adamant that israel is doing the right thing have to rebut the above- its as simple as that -this will require inside info- and some of it will have to be proposterous for it to rebut the above arguments
the jews above all other people should know what its like to have to leave their country, to be slaughtered, to be bombed and exiled... now they really have to question their own convictions and get to the truth - hiding behind the idea of a need to defend the jewish state at all costs is no longer an excuse in these modern times
the other thing we need to look at is- if israel wants to be a jewish state- it should start acting like one- all these arrogant sentiments should stop "oh we;re not afraid of them, we have a big/strong army" "we will prevail" i mean give it a rest, David and Saul never relied on a great army to get victory.