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jenzipoo said:
as for the thing on extremists hating israel for what its done not for the jews...crap
all over charters and speeches it never ever says israel or israelis it says the zionist regime or the jews
mainly the latter
Oh look at me, I'm the vulnerable Jew who's being targetted by these evil, evil Moslems. :rolleyes:

It's Israel's/IDF's/Zionist actions that are the reason why Israel is being targetted by militants, and not because of the religion a large majority of Israelis follow.
 

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hiphophooray123 said:
i bet it was christians.
Britain names 19 suspects

August 11, 2006 - 5:29PM

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Britain today named 19 of the suspects allegedly involved in a plot to blow up transatlantic airliners which police said they had foiled yesterday.
In a statement on its website Britain's central bank, acting on instructions from the government, ordered the freezing of their financial assets.
Here is the full list of names as published by the bank:
1) ALI, Abdula, Ahmed,
Age: 25
Date of birth: October 10, 1980
Address: London
2) ALI, Cossor
Age: 23
Date of birth: December 4, 1982
Address: London
3) ALI, Shazad, Khuram
Age: 27
Date of birth: June 11, 1979
Address: High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, southern England
4) HUSSAIN, Nabeel
Age: 22
Date of birth: March 10, 1984
Address: London
5) HUSSAIN, Tanvir
Age: 25
Date of birth: February 21, 1981
Address: London
6) HUSSAIN, Umair
Age: 24
Date of birth: October 9, 1981
Address: London
7) ISLAM, Umar
Age: 28
Date of birth: April 23, 1978
Address: High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
8) KAYANI, Waseem
Age: 29
Date of birth: April 28, 1977
Address: High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
9) KHAN, Assan, Abdullah
Age: 21
Date of birth: October 24, 1984
Address: London
10) KHAN, Waheed, Arafat
Age: 25
Date of birth: May 18, 1981
Address: London
11) KHATIB, Osman, Adam
Age: 19
Date of birth: December 7, 1986
Address: London
12) PATEL, Abdul, Muneem
Age: 17
Date of birth: April 17, 1989
Address: London
13) RAUF, Tayib
Age: 22
Date of birth: April 26, 1984
Address: Birmingham, central England
14) SADDIQUE, Muhammed, Usman
Age: 24
Date of birth: April 23, 1982
Address: London
15) SARWAR, Assad
Age: 26
Date of birth: May 24, 1980
Address: High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
16) SAVANT, Ibrahim
Age: 25
Date of birth: December 19, 1980
Address: London
17) TARIQ, Amin, Asmin
Age: 23
Date of birth: June 7, 1983
Address: London
18) UDDIN, Shamin, Mohammed
Age: 35
Date of birth: November 22, 1970
Address: London
19) ZAMAN, Waheed
Age: 22
Date of birth: May 27, 1984
Address: London
Reuters
 

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bshoc said:
Even most of the "moderate" muslims dislike or hate the west, even the though some of these hypocrites live in "the west." This isnt just radical islam vs. the rest, this is a clash of civilizations, namely the Christian/nonreligious West against the Islamic world.

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u obviously dont know any muslims then
 

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bshoc said:
Britain names 19 suspects

August 11, 2006 - 5:29PM

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Britain today named 19 of the suspects allegedly involved in a plot to blow up transatlantic airliners which police said they had foiled yesterday.
In a statement on its website Britain's central bank, acting on instructions from the government, ordered the freezing of their financial assets.
Here is the full list of names as published by the bank:
1) ALI, Abdula, Ahmed,
Age: 25
Date of birth: October 10, 1980
Address: London
2) ALI, Cossor
Age: 23
Date of birth: December 4, 1982
Address: London
3) ALI, Shazad, Khuram
Age: 27
Date of birth: June 11, 1979
Address: High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, southern England
4) HUSSAIN, Nabeel
Age: 22
Date of birth: March 10, 1984
Address: London
5) HUSSAIN, Tanvir
Age: 25
Date of birth: February 21, 1981
Address: London
6) HUSSAIN, Umair
Age: 24
Date of birth: October 9, 1981
Address: London
7) ISLAM, Umar
Age: 28
Date of birth: April 23, 1978
Address: High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
8) KAYANI, Waseem
Age: 29
Date of birth: April 28, 1977
Address: High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
9) KHAN, Assan, Abdullah
Age: 21
Date of birth: October 24, 1984
Address: London
10) KHAN, Waheed, Arafat
Age: 25
Date of birth: May 18, 1981
Address: London
11) KHATIB, Osman, Adam
Age: 19
Date of birth: December 7, 1986
Address: London
12) PATEL, Abdul, Muneem
Age: 17
Date of birth: April 17, 1989
Address: London
13) RAUF, Tayib
Age: 22
Date of birth: April 26, 1984
Address: Birmingham, central England
14) SADDIQUE, Muhammed, Usman
Age: 24
Date of birth: April 23, 1982
Address: London
15) SARWAR, Assad
Age: 26
Date of birth: May 24, 1980
Address: High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
16) SAVANT, Ibrahim
Age: 25
Date of birth: December 19, 1980
Address: London
17) TARIQ, Amin, Asmin
Age: 23
Date of birth: June 7, 1983
Address: London
18) UDDIN, Shamin, Mohammed
Age: 35
Date of birth: November 22, 1970
Address: London
19) ZAMAN, Waheed
Age: 22
Date of birth: May 27, 1984
Address: London
Reuters

bro fuck you're ignorant the media is lying just to incite hatred towards muslims. In actuality their names were:

jason smith

robert brown

tyler higgins

ralph camron

john keating

chadd murray

they were all anglo christians. Don't believe the media, didn't you learn from HSC enlglish!!!
 

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hiphophooray123 said:
bro fuck you're ignorant the media is lying just to incite hatred towards muslims. In actuality their names were:

jason smith

robert brown

tyler higgins

ralph camron

john keating

chadd murray

they were all anglo christians. Don't believe the media, didn't you learn from HSC enlglish!!!
The beauty of mass muslim immigration. Probably the greatest post war policy mistake of Western Europe and UK was letting in large numbers of muslims.
 

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If Banco55 is a satisfactory product of the 'greatest society in the history of mankind' then im glad my culture is doomed to die
 

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Hahaha, bshoc, I don't know where you get your info from but you have no idea what Islam is. No idea. I mean, Muslims have a "duty to lie to infidels"? :rofl:
 

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Optophobia said:
Are you a Muslim? Why do you sound like Zahid? Do all Muslims sound like Zahid?
Yeah, I'm Muslim and all Muslims sound like Zahid.
 

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bshoc, you are not a realist, you are a racist fanatic. Terrorist acts by Islamic fundamentalists are not the result of a deep hatred of Western values, they are a deplorable but predictable response to Western imperialism, and indeed, terrorism.

Your anti-Muslim rhetoric sounds like Hitler's Jewish rants, just with muslim and jew swapped around.
 

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Hahaha, bshoc, I don't know where you get your info from but you have no idea what Islam is. No idea. I mean, Muslims have a "duty to lie to infidels"? :rofl:
Do yourself a favour and look up "taqiyya" , "kitman" and "backsheesh" , I read it in their holybook but I would assume its on the internet on some form as well.
 

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oh in my little rant i think i got bshoc and banco55 confused. not sure
 

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bshoc said:
And you're a weakling who cant stand up for the values and freedoms you got for being born here, if you think the christo-european world is so bad go live with the muslims in their "paradise."

Most of them hate us, and I hate most of them, you've got your head in the sand.
Will I stand up for democracy, free speech, etc? Yes.

Will I support the deportation of a particular religous group? No.

Will you provide evidence to show that 'most of them hate us'?

The values 'i got for being born here' include religous freedom, pluralism and inclusiveness. Just because i was born here does not mean i have to agree with your racism and bigotism.
 

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Valeu said:
bshoc, you are not a realist, you are a racist fanatic. Terrorist acts by Islamic fundamentalists are not the result of a deep hatred of Western values, they are a deplorable but predictable response to Western imperialism, and indeed, terrorism.
How could the British born and educated 7/7 bombers possibly (and it's more than likely that the arrested people from this plot will be likewise) be responding to "western imperialism"?
 

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Captain Gh3y, they may not be affected by it, but that is what their aim is - the expulsion of Westerners from Arab lands. I don't agree with their means, as does any sane person, but it is clear WHY they do what they do. Al Qaeda was founded on that mission - to get rid of the infidels after they put military bases in Saudi Arabia and Turkey, etc.

That's what they say in their videos - 'as you bomb us, you will be bombed' and so forth. As I said, i deplore what they do, but their motivations are obvious - opposition to 'Western Values' is a side issue.
 
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bshoc said:
And your point is? They're invoking Taqiyya to "protect" themselves and the darker, unacceptable tennets of muslim religion from the decadent infidels of the west. Almost any bullshit excuse can be used to invoke Taqiyya, ask a muslim whose fled the religious government of Iran, I know I have.
What are you smoking? Read the article.

Your claim of Muslims having a "duty" to lie to non-Muslims is utter nonsense. Taqiyya refers to the renouncing of a Muslim's belief in Islam if he/she is threatened/forced to, and is not some sort of condition which allows a Muslim to lie. And even if it was, how does lying protect someone from the "decadent infidels"?
 

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bshoc said:
Firstly did you know its a foremost duty of every muslim to lie to "infidels"? Bet you didnt. Muslims crap all over you behind your back everyday.
your a clown, where do u get this stuff from ? u need to get your head out of the sand
 

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